Re: [asterisk-biz] Can anyone transfer a Canadian number

On 1/3/09, voip-asterisk@maximumcrm.com <voip-asterisk@maximumcrm.com> wrote:
>
>
> The internet is one broken mess that now makes fidonet look simple.
>

For "one broken mess" it certainly got your message to me fairly quickly...

I pointed out a specific issue that is a mess. Calling the entire
internet "one broken mess" is an overstatement, bordering on FUD.

Of course this is all assuming you were serious... ;)

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Can anyone transfer a Canadian number

That's true. I guess I meant more in theory than practice.

On Jan 3, 2009, at 3:16 PM, "Kristian Kielhofner" <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com
> wrote:

> On 1/3/09, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
>> That would depend on where the number went "back" to.
>>
>> Underlying carrier? Pooling? Another level of ITSP resale?
>>
>> Number block ownership and routing is assigned. Carriers can't just
>> pick a number and start providing it. Kind of like IP addresses and
>> BGP.
>>
>
> I don't know if I would make the comparison to IP and BGP...
>
> It's widely known (and demonstrated) that very, very few (if any)
> upstreams filter and/or verify route advertisements. It's really a
> mess.
>
> Spammers advertised "unused" blocks they find and spam from them.
>
> Pakistani Telecom jacks YouTube somewhat-globally with a more
> specific advertisement of YouTube's IP space.
>
> Pilosov/Kapela attack, etc.
>
> Totally off topic but I though I'd at least bring it up.
>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Can anyone transfer a Canadian number

You can do it via didx.net if you have an account via virtualphoneline.com

Cost is 25$ takes 2 to 3 weeks to do it.

Rehan

> I had a number with a Canadian provider, hitcalls.com and after they
> went out of business, we lost the number. Can anyone get hold of it and
> provider it to us? The area code is 416.
>
> Chris
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Can anyone transfer a Canadian number

> I don't know if I would make the comparison to IP and BGP...
>
> It's widely known (and demonstrated) that very, very few (if any)
> upstreams filter and/or verify route advertisements. It's really a
> mess.

The internet is one broken mess that now makes fidonet look simple.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Can anyone transfer a Canadian number

On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 15:16 -0500, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
> On 1/3/09, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
> > That would depend on where the number went "back" to.
> >
> > Underlying carrier? Pooling? Another level of ITSP resale?
> >
> > Number block ownership and routing is assigned. Carriers can't just
> > pick a number and start providing it. Kind of like IP addresses and BGP.
> >
>
> I don't know if I would make the comparison to IP and BGP...
>
> It's widely known (and demonstrated) that very, very few (if any)
> upstreams filter and/or verify route advertisements. It's really a
> mess.
>
> Spammers advertised "unused" blocks they find and spam from them.
>
> Pakistani Telecom jacks YouTube somewhat-globally with a more
> specific advertisement of YouTube's IP space.
>
> Pilosov/Kapela attack, etc.
>
> Totally off topic but I though I'd at least bring it up.
>

on a side note I discovered that some telephone carriers were using
unassigned blocks and they were routable for a while in iowa. So
stranger things have happened in the telecom world. According to NANPA
these blocks were never issued to anyone, ever. Google also returns
several hundred businesses advertising numbers in this block (like
garages, markets, and others not online or shady things).

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Can anyone transfer a Canadian number

On 1/3/09, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
> That would depend on where the number went "back" to.
>
> Underlying carrier? Pooling? Another level of ITSP resale?
>
> Number block ownership and routing is assigned. Carriers can't just
> pick a number and start providing it. Kind of like IP addresses and BGP.
>

I don't know if I would make the comparison to IP and BGP...

It's widely known (and demonstrated) that very, very few (if any)
upstreams filter and/or verify route advertisements. It's really a
mess.

Spammers advertised "unused" blocks they find and spam from them.

Pakistani Telecom jacks YouTube somewhat-globally with a more
specific advertisement of YouTube's IP space.

Pilosov/Kapela attack, etc.

Totally off topic but I though I'd at least bring it up.

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http://www.submityoursip.com
http://www.astlinux.org
http://www.star2star.com

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> Or was this supposed to be a private email to someone at
> supertec that you posted to a public mailing list?

Bingo. :)

I've had problems with the DIDx failover feature too, namely
it doesn't work as it's supposed to. Support essentially told
me everything is working and closed the tickets. I guess I
must be imagining things. :)

I like DIDx, but support could definitely be improved.

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