Sunday, January 4, 2009

Re: [asterisk-biz] Experimental/new VoIP rate search engine.

Well, yes and no-

The lowest rates are almost always grey routes (lower quality),
so it makes sense paying a little more to use a white or premium
route - if you really get a white/premium route.

Simply paying a higher rate does not ensure you're getting a better
route, as some providers mark up the prices of grey routes to
white route levels, and you end up paying white route prices for
grey route quality.

Unfortunately most providers will not tell you what kind of
routes they use - especially those with higher rates.

--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Sandeep Kanao <iitt2007@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Sandeep Kanao <iitt2007@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Experimental/new VoIP rate search engine.
> To: nk3569@yahoo.com, "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 3:27 PM
> Shouldn't rate and reliability (aka as quality ??), go
> hand in hand. I won't
> mind spending an extra cent for a reliable provider. But,
> none the less, its
> a good start and the list will be useful for many like us.
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Nitzan Kon
> <nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, how to put it.. exposure is exposure. As a
> provider you'd
> > want to get your name out there even if your rates are
> not as
> > competitive as others.
> >
> > Not to mention that if a provider does have such
> agreements
> > in place that allow them to achieve low rates to a
> certain
> > destination - having those rates searchable and
> displayed
> > as #1 lowest is sure to bring them customers
> interested in
> > those routes/rates.
> >
> > But at the end of the day it's up to each provider
> to decide
> > if they'd like to be on there or not. You
> don't have to like
> > the idea to get customers from it, nor would we force
> anyone
> > to be on there if they'd like their rates removed.
> The idea
> > is to find the lowest rates, so providers that do not
> compete
> > on price aren't really critical to have in there.
> >
> > There will also be other comparisons in the future
> too.
> > Calling plan rates, quality (will have to figure out
> > how to measure "quality"), length in
> business, etc.
> >
> > -- Nitzan
> >
> > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Alex Balashov
> <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Alex Balashov
> <abalashov@evaristesys.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Experimental/new VoIP
> rate search engine.
> > > To: "nk3569@yahoo.com"
> <nk3569@yahoo.com>, "Commercial and
> > Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> > > Cc: "Commercial and Business-Oriented
> Asterisk Discussion" <
> > asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> > > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 2:43 PM
> > > Nitzan,
> > >
> > > Interesting idea. I wonder, though, what
> incentive exists
> > > for providers to list their rates in a context
> where they
> > > are explicitly bidding against others.
> > >
> > > Seems like the best rates come from negotiating
> discounts
> > > off the public termination rate deck (something
> far from all
> > > providers think is good to have) through volume
> commitments
> > > privately.
> > >
> > > In other words, I think folks doing arbitrage are
> trying to
> > > avoid commodification of trunking as much as
> possible, even
> > > though that seems inevitable and kind of obvious.
> > >
> > > On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Nitzan Kon
> > > <nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello providers! (those of you that are)
> > > >
> > > > Due to the lack of one being available (that
> I know
> > > of),
> > > > I decided to start a VoIP rate search
> engine. The idea
> > > is
> > > > to throw in as many providers into the
> database as we
> > > can,
> > > > and let the search functionality find the
> cheapest
> > > routes
> > > > for any given destination.
> > > >
> > > > To check it out, please visit:
> > > > http://www.comparevoipproviderrates.com/
> > > >
> > > > If you are a provider and would like your
> rates
> > > displayed,
> > > > please email your rates in CSV format to
> rates
> > > NOSPAMat comparevoipproviderrates.com - format
> is:
> > > > dialprefix,destinate name,rate in US dollars
> > > > example: 1214,USA,0.01
> > > >
> > > > destination name,dialprefix,rate is also
> acceptable.
> > > >
> > > > Please feel free to discuss and let me know
> if you
> > > have
> > > > any comments or suggestions - or if you find
> any bugs.
> > > > This is brand new and will be a
> work-in-progress for a
> > > > while.
> > > >
> > > > -- Nitzan
> > > >
> > > >
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