People buy from telemarketers, spammers, door to door salesmen. I
would do none of that, I am simply answering a call that "they"
initiated and could terminate at any time with no charge, it's toll
free!
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:32 PM, C. Savinovich
<c.savinovich@itntelecom.com> wrote:
>>>If you are questioning ethics, then state it.
>
> You are saying that my question/s are implying that there are questionable
> ethics on your uniquely fantastic and terrific idea? That's too funny... I
> tell you, I am roaring with laughter here... there is no way that can be
> interpreted as such.
>
> CS
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:21 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in
> CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?
>
> Your question not is too difficult, or too rhetorical. If you are
> questioning ethics, then state it. I had already said that I would
> not mislead any caller into thinking they reached the destination they
> intended, I would correct the Canadian cell phone company at the end
> of the IVR (under no obligation BTW).
>
> How do I know that they have reached the number in error? Maybe I
> have the same transfer partners through my own business and
> advertising? There will be no operator, just IVRs.
>
> Delinquent accounts on a cell phone do not correlate with fixing, or
> poor credit so that point is moot, at least in the USA, although that
> could be a helpful service for some callers.
>
> Your "rephrased question for better understanding" does not help for
> better understanding, sorry.
>
> Nigel Dennis, if you are still interested, email me directly (or anyone
> else)
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:58 PM, C. Savinovich
> <c.savinovich@itntelecom.com> wrote:
>>>>I guess you didn't read the whole thread or you would understand that
>>>>helpful or similar products would be offered, not a toaster.......
>>>>This is the delinquent cell phone bill line after all.
>>
>> Of course I read the whole thread. My question, rephrased for better
>> understanding is/was: Operator answers the call and says "You reached this
>> number in error, this is not the delinquent phone bill line, but we can
> fix
>> your credit nevertheless..." ...I am basically being skeptical that there
>> will be a positive public response to this, but I may be wrong, and if I
> am,
>> I would welcome a response. But, perhaps the question is too difficult,
> or
>> too rhetorical.
>>
>> CS
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:27 PM
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in
>> CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?
>>
>> The mobile carrier has published my very similar number by mistake in
>> their contact information somewhere. There would be no deception.
>> Just offerings that may match the demographic. People that for
>> whatever reason are delinquent on their bills.
>>
>> I am not sure what you don't get. Offering alternate services that
>> match the demographic while making it clear that they have not reached
>> the company they intended.
>>
>> The correct number would be given at the end of the IVR, sales pitch,
>> or transfer.
>>
>> I guess you didn't read the whole thread or you would understand that
>> helpful or similar products would be offered, not a toaster.......
>> This is the delinquent cell phone bill line after all.
>>
>> 1+1=1, no, it equals two.....
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve T
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:56 PM, C. Savinovich
>> <c.savinovich@itntelecom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Excuse my ignorance, but I don't understand... caller lands by mistake
>>> because he/she thinks they are calling the customer service number of X
>>> mobile carrier. And then what? If Y company answers the call, what are
>> they
>>> going to do with it? Are they going to pretend they are the X mobile
>>> carrier? Are they going to say "look, we are not X mobile carrier, but we
>>> can sell you toasters?... I don't get it... where is the value of these
>> lost
>>> calls?
>>>
>>> C. Savinovich
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:47 AM
>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in
>>> CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?
>>>
>>> I have thought this out a bit. The number is a toll free 888 vanity
>>> that I paid for because it is so memorable. I did a test with my
>>> eight year old niece. I told her the number and asked that she
>>> remember it. A week later, I asked her the number and recall was
>>> immediate.
>>>
>>> Anyways, I am up for bids. The number is very memorable and to clear
>>> things up, my number is 888, their number is 800, but someone messed
>>> up and pucblished my number.
>>>
>>> My thoughts on this are as follows:
>>> 1. Block international calls which I would not really want to do.
>>> 2. Have an IVR with different/companiies offers relating to products
>>> that may be of interest to the caller to choose from.
>>> 3. Link up with one company and they take the calls.
>>>
>>> As to the price, it would vary.based on the indented service and what
>>> it is worth to you. $2 U$D seems like a fee if the call goes over two
>>> minitue, less than two minutes, no charge. A two dollar qualified
>>> leads is a bargain.
>>>
>>> Still thinking this through. Suggestions and ideas are more than
> welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve T
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:23 PM, <nigel.dennis@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>
>>>> I am interested. I do run a related business in Canada.
>>>> Ontario to be exact. What do you want for the call transfer?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nigel Dennis
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>>>> Discussion<asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>>>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
>>>> Discussion"<asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Any Cellular Phone Related Businesses in
>>>> CanadaInterested in Call Transfers?
>>>> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:12:02 -0400
>>>>>I have a phone number that has erroneously been published by one of
>>>>>the larger cell phone companies in Canada. The only issue is that the
>>>>>line is for delinquent accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>>I get between 30-100 calls a day for that cellular company. The
>>>>>number itself is extremely memorable. Instead of blocking Canadian
>>>>>callers, I thought maybe someone on the list would be willing to pay
>>>>>for these call transfers.
>>>>>
>>>>>I see an ideal candidate for this idea being in the prepaid cellular
>>>>>biz, debt consolidation, credit, loans or whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just a thought, but I am sure these callers could be worth something,
>>>>>rather than costing me time and money (although I look very popular
>>>>>because my phone rings all the time.)
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Steve Totaro
>>>>>
>
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