Thursday, December 25, 2008

Re: [asterisk-biz] New Cisco SPA-525G Desktop IP Phone Coming Soonw/ BlueTooth, WiFi and More

John - not sure about the SIP/XML piece, I'll need to dig a bit on that. The MP3 player function is not for everyone, but cool nonetheless. The phone picks up any media in the root directory of the flash device, including MP3's and photos (Not sure if it can handle video clips?) Would be cool if you could conference in the audio/MP3 into a call and share that with someone, or easily share a previously recorded call, saved on the phone, with another party at a later date. I think they have more features planned for the USB interface on the phone, such as local call recording to flash media. What about one touch podcast syndication of recorded calls?

I'd love to see a simple XML integration on a handset to display photostream from Flickr. I'm sure lots of service providers would be interested in serving "actionable" advertisements to SIP endpoints...wonder if you could create a context-sensitive, transient softbutton on the phone that would allow a user to act on an advertisement and trigger a call connect?

This is an interesting product if for no other reason other than it is a Cisco endpoint that ships natively with SIP. It will also be interesting to see which handset manufacturer can be first to market with some meaningful XML applications that can drive user adoption.

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From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of John Todd
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 10:45 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] New Cisco SPA-525G Desktop IP Phone Coming Soonw/ BlueTooth, WiFi and More

On Dec 25, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Cory Andrews wrote:

> http://blog.voipsupply.com/new-products/first-look-cisco-spa-525g-desktop-ip-phone-with-wifi-bluetooth-and-more
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> Cory J. Andrews
> Director New Market Initiatives


I posted a comment on the blog, but it does occur to me that this is a
better forum for a back-and-forth discussion than perhaps the Comments
section on that page. The phone looks very nice, and I think that
this kind of feature set will sell well - good to see some innovation
from Cisco phones! The Bluetooth capability is really nice. It would
be amazingly far-sighted of them to have Bluetooth association create
SIP NOTIFY events - would that be the enabler for all sorts of
interesting features or what? When you (or at least your Bluetooth
headset) sit down at your desk, the phone could send a NOTIFY and
calls start flowing to your desk. (or "REGISTER" - not sure which
would be more appropriate.) When you move away, the SIP server is
NOTIFYed that you are away, and routes calls to your cell phone.
(Yes, I know, I'll stop my crazy talk about "features" and
"innovation" - it just gives developers headaches.) This is of course
all stuff that Asterisk can or could do easily as the core, and allow
those components to be accessed quickly by the huge development
community. But of course that only means hardware revenue for Cisco,
and no Call Manager revenue. The Open Source barbarians might storm
the gates in San Jose with swords made out of Linksys phones. But I
don't particularly care about the internal contentions in CSCOs
product group - I'm only interested in what features are available on
equipment I (we) can use.

I'll throw a few more bones of contention out to see if you or someone
else on the list know better than I some of the answers:


No G.722 of any sort? Surprising.

Also: I've been remiss in keeping up with these for a while. Can XML
URLs be pushed into the phone on an INVITE yet or is that still a
"complex feature" only available on the proprietary protocols? In
other words: do a screen pop on the phone when a call comes in with
some arbitrary web-based data displayed?

I've tried beating that idea into the heads of the Sipura/Linksys/
Cisco people for literally 7 years now, and there has been a
resounding silence. Doesn't this seem like an obvious feature? When
a call comes in, have DATA on that screen instead of just caller ID.
I've heard various hemming and hawing about "Oh, well, XML would be
too slow" or "That would require a new RFC!" and nonsense of that
ilk. Bollocks! They do it on the SCCP phones, and SIP accepts easy
header extensions with no new RFC. This has been bald-faced
intentional feature absence so that the SIP phones didn't steal the
show from the bulky and proprietary Cisco back-end products. If those
SIP phones could do it, Asterisk would eat MORE of Call Manager's
lunch than it already has. Maybe I'm frustrated about something that
has been possible for a long time on those phones - it's been a few
years since I really delved into the manuals on the SPA software
loads. Do you know if it is possible yet to do screen pops on the SIP
images of these phones via an XML URL?

PS: MP3's from the speaker on the phone? Err... why? Cool feature
and everything, but mono audio from a speakerphone is not exactly
"listening pleasure" material.


JT

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