Thursday, March 26, 2009

Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk job request

Class dismissed, you can all go home kids, see you on Monday,

 

CS and ML can i see you after class ?

 

;) seem this list doesn’t change , 3 years and counting since last look and same flaming stuff, although we did learn about capitalism and other non asterisk stuff as well.

 

 

From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C. Savinovich
Sent: March-26-09 1:03 PM
To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk job request

 

 

Yes, yes…. If Asterisk is eventually just the wrong technology to make money, and this I am seriously studying, I will not only get out, I will run away never to look back J

 

CS

 

From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jai Rangi
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:19 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk job request

 

I think here the Customer will decide who need to be out.
Thinking as a customer, if $20 guy meets my standards and get the job done, then we all know the answer that who will be out. ;)

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:57 AM, C. Savinovich <c.savinovich@itntelecom.com> wrote:


 My friend, I am sorry but you are not making any sense.  Trying to
understand what you are writing, what you seem to be saying is:  "You must
be able to compete with people working for $20 a job, or else get out".
That's ridiculous.  You are ignoring like 10 different parameters, but first
and most important is: I don't want to compete with $20 jobs, and I don't
want to get out, and I even want to oppose them... and if you don't like my
position, then YOU get out.

CS

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mitul Limbani
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:13 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk job request

Hi,

On 26-Mar-09, at 0:32, "C. Savinovich" <c.savinovich@itntelecom.com>
wrote:

>>> You are probably unaware of what goes on off-list precipitated by
>>> postings from this list, but believe me, at least $100k deals are
>>> done
>>> in my experience.  Obviously, these discussions are off-list for a
>>> reason.
>
>  Not unaware at all.  And personally I have made a couple of good
> deals
> that originated on this list.  Precisely because of it, I find it
> essential
> that this list maintains a level of professionalism not only from the
> sellers, but also from the buyers.  I chose Asterisk as a platform
> because I
> expected it to be a technology that will help me make a lot money.
> Period.
> Anyone offering to buy or sell Asterisk services for $20 diminishes
> the list
> and the technology, and lowers my market.  Of course, there is
> always the
> chance that I am wrong and that I chose the wrong technology.  I
> would hate
> to think so though.  I am aware that knowledge of Asterisk in and of
> itself
> is not enough to make anyone rich, but my point is: This list can
> become the
> source of quality business leads that we all want, if we so demand
> from it.
>
> C. Savinovich
>
>
>
>
> (if anything with my complaints) a level of professionalism both for
> buyers
> as well as sellers.
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I think you are still not aware of economies which provide a lot for
$20 then the one in which you are, so being on this global list if you
can't compete a $20 guy then don't complain, after all a business
owner thinks the best place to source its raw material and sell in
markets which pay him the most dollars for the same ( this is
business, this is how profits are made, to give you business 101)

So if you complain that a $20 guy should not be allowed to compete you
who may be $200 then look whos asking for professionalism.

If you still think you want to be in asterisk business then bloody
well compete!!!
Unless otherwise you make something like, Asterisk yourself an build a
community around and blah blah !!

So moral of story compete or stop complaining. Period.

Regards,
Mitul Limbani,
Founder & CEO,
Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd.,
The Enterprise Linux Company(r),
http://www.enterux.com/

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