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Very Good Nicolas, I think it is a very good idea. It is your work, you
dedicated a lot of time and effort to it, do not give it out for free.
CS
PS: It opens up the market to other people too :)
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To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Announcement: Flash Operator Panel 2 released
Hello list,
After several months of work and testing I finished with the next
generation FOP. Flash Operator Panel is a web based switchboard
application for Asterisk. You can download the software and read more
about it at http://www.fop2.com
It is an almost a complete rewrite of the original, using the same
underlying technologies ( AMI proxy, Flash xmlsockets ), but with a
dhtml/javascript frontend.
Although the underlying technologies are the same, the focus has
changed. FOP2 is now user oriented. In order to use it you have to
login with your extension number and a password. For this reason, you
can perform transfers or originate calls only from your phone (and not
others). For the very same reason you can perform those actions using
clicks of the mouse instead of using drag and drop, as the origin of
the actions will be always the extension you are logged in as. That
will make it easier to use with touch screens.
I am in the process of making packages for different distributions and
platforms. There might be minor changes on the packages in the very
first weeks, mostly on the installation procedures and documentation
files, and probably minor bug fixes.
The main reason and motivation behind FOP 2 was that the original FOP
started small and grew in features not in an ordered way, driven by
community requests and demands. So it ended up being a mammoth that
was in need of a heavy rewrite.
I have taken what I consider the most important factors and features
for a switchboard based on feedback and the experience I gained over
the years, and started to code with a clear idea of the features for
the final product. The result is a proxy daemon that is much more
optimized and solid that uses a lot less cpu than FOP 1. The drawback
is that FOP 2 has currently less features than FOP 1 (mainly less
button types, for example there is no support for regexp buttons
anymore and parking is not supported). But is also has several cool
new features that are described in the web site.
After much though, I also decided to not release this version as open
source. You can use it for free up to 15 buttons per context, or you
can buy a license to unlock the number of buttons.
FOP 1 is not dead and it is still open source. I will make
compatibility and bug fixes releases for it.
Hope you enjoy the software as much as I did developing it.
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Buenos Aires - Argentina
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After several months of work and testing I finished with the next
generation FOP. Flash Operator Panel is a web based switchboard
application for Asterisk. You can download the software and read more
about it at http://www.fop2.com
It is an almost a complete rewrite of the original, using the same
underlying technologies ( AMI proxy, Flash xmlsockets ), but with a
dhtml/javascript frontend.
Although the underlying technologies are the same, the focus has
changed. FOP2 is now user oriented. In order to use it you have to
login with your extension number and a password. For this reason, you
can perform transfers or originate calls only from your phone (and not
others). For the very same reason you can perform those actions using
clicks of the mouse instead of using drag and drop, as the origin of
the actions will be always the extension you are logged in as. That
will make it easier to use with touch screens.
I am in the process of making packages for different distributions and
platforms. There might be minor changes on the packages in the very
first weeks, mostly on the installation procedures and documentation
files, and probably minor bug fixes.
The main reason and motivation behind FOP 2 was that the original FOP
started small and grew in features not in an ordered way, driven by
community requests and demands. So it ended up being a mammoth that
was in need of a heavy rewrite.
I have taken what I consider the most important factors and features
for a switchboard based on feedback and the experience I gained over
the years, and started to code with a clear idea of the features for
the final product. The result is a proxy daemon that is much more
optimized and solid that uses a lot less cpu than FOP 1. The drawback
is that FOP 2 has currently less features than FOP 1 (mainly less
button types, for example there is no support for regexp buttons
anymore and parking is not supported). But is also has several cool
new features that are described in the web site.
After much though, I also decided to not release this version as open
source. You can use it for free up to 15 buttons per context, or you
can buy a license to unlock the number of buttons.
FOP 1 is not dead and it is still open source. I will make
compatibility and bug fixes releases for it.
Hope you enjoy the software as much as I did developing it.
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Buenos Aires - Argentina
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I have extensive experience in LAN and WAN networking, Asterisk, SIP,
routing, Linux, etc. I have been doing WAN and LAN networking and Linux
Admin since 1998. I have been using Asterisk in production environment
since 2002.
For more information see http://www.fnords.org/ewieling-skillslist.html
If you prefer a more traditional resume format look at
http://www.fnords.org/ewieling-resume.pdf
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case closed with the best sip stack in town.
and yes, there is a 3.0 push version in the works, along with full FMC
support provided that you have the agreement of your cell carrier to
allow for VoIP over GSM.
However, with Tethering avail in 3.0, the GSM carriers should lighten
up.
F.
On 27-Jun-09, at 10:14 AM, michael@hesta.com wrote:
> With push notification now available in new OS does anyone know if
> anyone is working on an app that would enable the iPhone to be used as
> a full extension on an asterisk system ? Would be very valuable in
> residential as well as enterprise!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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This is also how most cell phone manufacturers get to sell their items to
cell phone providers,
The nokia use to fast dial even when locked. That meant, sitting down would
dial the numbers in your speed dial , i got some 800$ bills that way, which
i obviously contested.. but it's more money in the cell phone providers
pockets.
They won't shut off applications by default by pressing end key.. GPS will
still run in background eating bat life, and consuming up to 10 gig in a
short while... browser will still run , refreshing dynamic flash banners,
etc..
Hence the hype of Data via cell, they charge per MB of download sometimes
up to $15 bucks, get your blackberry and look at the downloaded data for a
simple Google result.. 150k+... that 1.5$ a page in some instances..
Of course they will never factor the fact they compress data and your phone
uncompressed it, mod_deflate, but then again cell phone providers are all
crooks at some level.. see Verizon suing all that moves for anything they
can find.
Let's get opensource base stations and ties ourselves together... j/k
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There is a big difference between not wanting having to deal with
technical issues, and being stupid.
For some reason some IT techies call non-IT people 'stupid'.
That's a big word. I have met many people in other professions
whom I would call highly intelligent, and you would likely
pale in comparison to them.
Let's not be to self righteous here.
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The whole Mac platform is geared toward stupid people.
F$CK the "Jobs Nanny State", it's ok for games and baby apps but whilst
you cant control the hardware / OS there will always be limitations.
This can only go one way - badly.
ts a whole big pile of facism, they tell you how you are allowed to use
your phone
"Fascism" used as a pejorative is highly dangerous to me, the real thing is just too serious.
What is left out in these arguments is the reality that Apple always has a trajectory.
Don't forget that as far as Apple is concerned they only have a few dozen
customers for the iPhone. They are the carriers who sell them.
I don't believe this for a minute. Apple's vision is post-carrier, its just going to take time, work and the help of Google to get there.
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I think it also requires a TOS violation, which means they can get a
cease and desist order, and if its not its a cat and mouse game, where
apple can alter the method used at any point making it so that you can
no longer do that, requiring you to find a new way to get the app
installed and all that.
Now if there is a config properties file that limits this functionality,
then you can change those settings via an email, you attach an xml file
which contains the changes which could potentially open this up a bit,
but its my guess that it wont be this trivial or people would be
discussing it quite a bit more.
> Don't forget that as far as Apple is concerned they only have a few dozen
> customers for the iPhone. They are the carriers who sell them.
>
I did not forget, in fact I mentioned something to the effect of it goes
against their business model since they are partnered with the carriers
who do not want you to utilize voip to be able to avoid charges from
them.
This was also a point of contention at one point, I believe that they
pushed hard to get apple to remove voip clients all together.
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This can only go one way - badly.
Read Michael Eisner's book about Disney and Universal and why Universal
had Disneyworld in a choke hold they could never get out of.
Regards,
Dean Collins
Cognation Inc
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+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
+44-20-3129-6001 (London in-dial).
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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Trixter aka
Bret McDanel
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 12:10 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] iPhone 3.0 app for asterisk?
On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 17:47 +0200, Ron Arts wrote:
> SIP clients for the iPhone suck. Because of the Apple restriction
> that apps cannot run in the background. Also as soon as you receive
> a GSM call, your VoIP call is terminated, and the iPhone phone app
> pops up.
that is a problem with the iphone and not sip clients per se, as a
result it may not be the best tool to be looking for, if you can drop a
VoIP call merely by calling the gsm number.
According to a Sr. VP of iPhone software this is to combat stupid people
"Most implementations often incorrectly lead users to believe that
they've quit programs when they remain open, reducing the battery life
and hurting processor performance with each open application."
I personally would not want a facist phone that tells me I am too stupid
to manage apps running on it, and they need to do that for me, but that
is just me. I am acutely aware of the apps running on both my linux
based and windows mobile based smartphones, and think that its silly for
someone to arbitrarily decide that I should have a crippled OS simply
because some users are not so aware.
It also looks like apple will have a stricter approval policy on apps
that run in the background. The whole concept that I bought the phone,
I own the hardware, yet I have to get permission to run applications and
can only run the ones they let me, seems silly. If this limitation were
placed on desktops then its unlikely that people would use that. Some
people like to develop applications that do a specific task and do not
want to have to jump through hoops to install their software on their
hardware, especially if it conflicts with some business model of the
seller of said hardware. this might be fine for game consoles, but
people rarely use a game console for business, and when you add in the
business aspect it makes it a different argument.
So for this to be possible, and what I just read on the push stuff it is
not as possible to stop the voip app dies when you get a phone call, you
would have to get apple's permission to do it, which would require them
to have no vested interest in not using the GSM network, which I believe
since they are tied to the carriers they allow to carry the phone it is
not. The push stuff basically lets an app know that it has to perform
some task, if it dies because something else popped up it appears all
you can do is bring it back up, but the call would still be trashed.
Its a whole big pile of facism, they tell you how you are allowed to use
your phone, they approve which apps you can use with your phone, and
this will not work well for all users, as a result it would not be
something I would stake my business on.
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The whole Mac platform is geared toward stupid people.
Some of it seems to be designed also by utter stupidity, like the lack of
a garbage collector. Or the refusal of Apple to approve new "diagnostic"
applications that allow to see the content in the memory, or the running
programs.
> Its a whole big pile of facism, they tell you how you are allowed to use
> your phone, they approve which apps you can use with your phone, and
> this will not work well for all users, as a result it would not be
> something I would stake my business on.
I wouldn't either. I started work of an iPhone client for my CRM software
but I do realise the limitations of the platform as a whole.
There are some limited, and official, ways to officially circumvent the
app store. But it does limit distribution and marketing of the
application.
Don't forget that as far as Apple is concerned they only have a few dozen
customers for the iPhone. They are the carriers who sell them.
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it is useless to waste time in order to develop software for this
product with these restrictions
Il giorno 27/giu/09, alle ore 18:10, Trixter aka Bret McDanel ha
scritto:
> On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 17:47 +0200, Ron Arts wrote:
>> SIP clients for the iPhone suck. Because of the Apple restriction
>> that apps cannot run in the background. Also as soon as you receive
>> a GSM call, your VoIP call is terminated, and the iPhone phone app
>> pops up.
>
> that is a problem with the iphone and not sip clients per se, as a
> result it may not be the best tool to be looking for, if you can
> drop a
> VoIP call merely by calling the gsm number.
>
> According to a Sr. VP of iPhone software this is to combat stupid
> people
> "Most implementations often incorrectly lead users to believe that
> they've quit programs when they remain open, reducing the battery life
> and hurting processor performance with each open application."
>
> I personally would not want a facist phone that tells me I am too
> stupid
> to manage apps running on it, and they need to do that for me, but
> that
> is just me. I am acutely aware of the apps running on both my linux
> based and windows mobile based smartphones, and think that its
> silly for
> someone to arbitrarily decide that I should have a crippled OS simply
> because some users are not so aware.
>
> It also looks like apple will have a stricter approval policy on apps
> that run in the background. The whole concept that I bought the
> phone,
> I own the hardware, yet I have to get permission to run
> applications and
> can only run the ones they let me, seems silly. If this limitation
> were
> placed on desktops then its unlikely that people would use that. Some
> people like to develop applications that do a specific task and do not
> want to have to jump through hoops to install their software on their
> hardware, especially if it conflicts with some business model of the
> seller of said hardware. this might be fine for game consoles, but
> people rarely use a game console for business, and when you add in the
> business aspect it makes it a different argument.
>
> So for this to be possible, and what I just read on the push stuff
> it is
> not as possible to stop the voip app dies when you get a phone
> call, you
> would have to get apple's permission to do it, which would require
> them
> to have no vested interest in not using the GSM network, which I
> believe
> since they are tied to the carriers they allow to carry the phone
> it is
> not. The push stuff basically lets an app know that it has to perform
> some task, if it dies because something else popped up it appears all
> you can do is bring it back up, but the call would still be trashed.
>
> Its a whole big pile of facism, they tell you how you are allowed
> to use
> your phone, they approve which apps you can use with your phone, and
> this will not work well for all users, as a result it would not be
> something I would stake my business on.
>
>
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that is a problem with the iphone and not sip clients per se, as a
result it may not be the best tool to be looking for, if you can drop a
VoIP call merely by calling the gsm number.
According to a Sr. VP of iPhone software this is to combat stupid people
"Most implementations often incorrectly lead users to believe that
they've quit programs when they remain open, reducing the battery life
and hurting processor performance with each open application."
I personally would not want a facist phone that tells me I am too stupid
to manage apps running on it, and they need to do that for me, but that
is just me. I am acutely aware of the apps running on both my linux
based and windows mobile based smartphones, and think that its silly for
someone to arbitrarily decide that I should have a crippled OS simply
because some users are not so aware.
It also looks like apple will have a stricter approval policy on apps
that run in the background. The whole concept that I bought the phone,
I own the hardware, yet I have to get permission to run applications and
can only run the ones they let me, seems silly. If this limitation were
placed on desktops then its unlikely that people would use that. Some
people like to develop applications that do a specific task and do not
want to have to jump through hoops to install their software on their
hardware, especially if it conflicts with some business model of the
seller of said hardware. this might be fine for game consoles, but
people rarely use a game console for business, and when you add in the
business aspect it makes it a different argument.
So for this to be possible, and what I just read on the push stuff it is
not as possible to stop the voip app dies when you get a phone call, you
would have to get apple's permission to do it, which would require them
to have no vested interest in not using the GSM network, which I believe
since they are tied to the carriers they allow to carry the phone it is
not. The push stuff basically lets an app know that it has to perform
some task, if it dies because something else popped up it appears all
you can do is bring it back up, but the call would still be trashed.
Its a whole big pile of facism, they tell you how you are allowed to use
your phone, they approve which apps you can use with your phone, and
this will not work well for all users, as a result it would not be
something I would stake my business on.
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SIP clients for the iPhone suck. Because of the Apple restriction
that apps cannot run in the background. Also as soon as you receive
a GSM call, your VoIP call is terminated, and the iPhone phone app
pops up.
Ron
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I do not know what you mean by a "full extension" as opposed to any
other type of extension.
Do you mean via the GSM layer or via SIP?
Can you not do this with SIP clients?
http://www.google.com/q=iphone+sip
it appears that there are a lot of free sip clients for the iphone, and
while I do not have one I cant say for sure, but ichat on the desktop
has sip functionality built in, so if it exists on the iphone then its
likely that it too would have sip functionality.
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which is available for 199$ in us at this time in retail
but this one is a bigger screen and new machine
http://www.google.com/products?q=acer+8.9&oe=utf-
8&hl=en&price1=&price2=210.00&lnk=prsugg
I cant wait to get the ones with built in data service for around 200$ soon which will allow u
to make calls from them also.
>
> Does asterisk run particularly well on it?
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:11 AM, VoIP Newbie <voip.newbie@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Please be informed that BroadTel has released 10.2" notebook computer at a retail price of
> USD250 each as follows:
>
> - Intel Atom N270 1.6GHz processor
> - 10.2" LCD display
> - 1GB DDR2 RAM
> - 160GB harddisk
> - built-in 802.11b/g WiFi
> - Lithium battery
> - power adapter
>
> Welcome OEM and ODM orders.
> For details, please contact sales@broad-tel.com.
> Thanks,
> David
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and very interesting point made here.
Looking forward to read more on this...
> This is partially off topic, as it's not strictly Asterisk-related...
>
> I know the anti-dumping laws in the US manufacturing and trade
> industries are geared toward international suppliers and protection of
> US companies. I'm curious, though, are there similar laws for technology
> (and, if not, should there be)?
>
> I was thinking about this this morning as I read the news about the
> first non Grand-Central users getting the Google Voice invites, and as I
> was going over the Google Voice services. One of them is calls to
> anywhere in the US for free, and it got me wondering. Currently, Google
> Voice has no ads, so there's no incoming revenue to offset the cost of
> termination to US phone lines. Which means, in essence, that Google is
> likely giving this service away purely as a loss-leader to grab users
> and drive out competition. Will the terms change later on? Hard to say.
> Like all things Google, the service will likely remain tagged 'Beta'
> long after it's one of the top-used services on the Internet.
>
> Would then Skype be able to come back and do the same thing as an effort
> to recapture any lost users? Or would that fall under some sort of
> anti-dumping umbrella because it's now a foreign company that's giving
> services away below cost?
>
> Do services even have similar legal fair-trade protections?
>
> Any ideas about the whole thing?
>
> N.
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1. OT: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454 (Les - LES.NET (1996) INC.)
2. Re: OT: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454 (Steve Totaro)
3. Re: OT: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454 (Alex Balashov)
4. Friday at 12 Noon EDT: VICIDIAL (randulo)
5. Dominican Republic (Tamo Tamo)
6. OT: Anti-dumping laws? (SIP)
7. Re: Update: Looks like Nufone is finally dead and out of
business (Wes Reece)
8. Re: OT: Anti-dumping laws? (Trixter aka Bret McDanel)
9. Re: OT: Anti-dumping laws? (SIP)
10. Re: Update: Looks like Nufone is finally dead and out of
business (Steve Totaro)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:40:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Les - LES.NET (1996) INC." <sales@les.net>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] OT: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454
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Hi.
If anyone has, or knows someone who has, knowledge on provisioning a Cisco
ONS 15454 (OC3, DS1, XC-VT) to pull VT1.5s off an OC3 and put them on a
DS1.
They would need to telnet to our terminal server and access the 15454 via
Serial Port, and provision the thing from scratch.
Send email to sales@les.net with a rough estimate price for performing
this task.
Thanks,
Les.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:03:25 -0700
From: Steve Totaro <stotaro@asteriskhelpdesk.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454
To: sales@les.net, Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Les - LES.NET (1996) INC. <sales@les.net>wrote:
> Hi.
>
> If anyone has, or knows someone who has, knowledge on provisioning a Cisco
> ONS 15454 (OC3, DS1, XC-VT) to pull VT1.5s off an OC3 and put them on a
> DS1.
>
> They would need to telnet to our terminal server and access the 15454 via
> Serial Port, and provision the thing from scratch.
>
> Send email to sales@les.net with a rough estimate price for performing
> this task.
>
> Thanks,
> Les.
>
I haven't done it on that beast but have on an Adtran MX2800.
You just console in and turn up the channels, they are administratively down
by default if memory serves me correctly.
That was all there was to it.
I can imagine Cisco made it difficult but knowing a bit of the cisco IOS and
pressing tab can probably get it working.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:04:39 -0400
From: Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Cisco Cerent ONS 15454
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Cerents don't run IOS. They have a TL1 interface.
Steve Totaro wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Les - LES.NET <http://LES.NET> (1996)
> INC. <sales@les.net <mailto:sales@les.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> If anyone has, or knows someone who has, knowledge on provisioning a
> Cisco
> ONS 15454 (OC3, DS1, XC-VT) to pull VT1.5s off an OC3 and put them on a
> DS1.
>
> They would need to telnet to our terminal server and access the
> 15454 via
> Serial Port, and provision the thing from scratch.
>
> Send email to sales@les.net <mailto:sales@les.net> with a rough
> estimate price for performing
> this task.
>
> Thanks,
> Les.
>
>
> I haven't done it on that beast but have on an Adtran MX2800.
>
> You just console in and turn up the channels, they are administratively
> down by default if memory serves me correctly.
>
> That was all there was to it.
>
> I can imagine Cisco made it difficult but knowing a bit of the cisco IOS
> and pressing tab can probably get it working.
>
> --
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> Steve Totaro
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:55:44 +0200
From: randulo <spamsucks2005@gmail.com>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Friday at 12 Noon EDT: VICIDIAL
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:27:13 -0400
From: Tamo Tamo <tamotamo8@gmail.com>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Dominican Republic
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:33:06 -0400
From: SIP <sip@arcdiv.com>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] OT: Anti-dumping laws?
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This is partially off topic, as it's not strictly Asterisk-related...
I know the anti-dumping laws in the US manufacturing and trade
industries are geared toward international suppliers and protection of
US companies. I'm curious, though, are there similar laws for technology
(and, if not, should there be)?
I was thinking about this this morning as I read the news about the
first non Grand-Central users getting the Google Voice invites, and as I
was going over the Google Voice services. One of them is calls to
anywhere in the US for free, and it got me wondering. Currently, Google
Voice has no ads, so there's no incoming revenue to offset the cost of
termination to US phone lines. Which means, in essence, that Google is
likely giving this service away purely as a loss-leader to grab users
and drive out competition. Will the terms change later on? Hard to say.
Like all things Google, the service will likely remain tagged 'Beta'
long after it's one of the top-used services on the Internet.
Would then Skype be able to come back and do the same thing as an effort
to recapture any lost users? Or would that fall under some sort of
anti-dumping umbrella because it's now a foreign company that's giving
services away below cost?
Do services even have similar legal fair-trade protections?
Any ideas about the whole thing?
N.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:48:16 -0400
From: Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Update: Looks like Nufone is finally dead
and out of business
To: trixter@0xdecafbad.com, Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
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Where can I read more?
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <
trixter@0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 16:40 -0700, Justin Newman wrote:
> > Another one bites the dust: Looks like Nufone is finally dead and out of
> business.
> >
> > I heard they may be selling some of their software, name, and other items
> to another company, but that it probably won't happen.
> >
>
> I heard that already happened in essence when they got bailed out after
> the issues of not charging what it cost to route calls and losing $400k
> in one month.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:56:04 -0700
From: Trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter@0xdecafbad.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Anti-dumping laws?
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On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 10:33 -0400, SIP wrote:
> Would then Skype be able to come back and do the same thing as an effort
> to recapture any lost users? Or would that fall under some sort of
> anti-dumping umbrella because it's now a foreign company that's giving
> services away below cost?
>
loss leaders are legal in the US unless you dominate the particular
market, then there are anti-trust laws that come into play and they may
not forbid it outright, it depends on the particulars.
Google has virtually a 0 market share when it comes to pstn terminated
voice traffic. As a result they do not have the same restrictions that
someone who dominates the market has. As VoIP to the customer in
general is only a small percentage of all telephone calls, most VoIP
providers would not have such things.
Telephony in the US is regulated, although how much depends on what
exactly you are doing. It is legal for companies to sell below their
cost, and in one FCC case it was specifically stated that companies
cannot complain if they sell below cost and someone buys and uses the
service, that the burden is on the carrier to file proper tariffs and
enter into proper contracts with customers to avoid losing money if that
is what they want.
Look at blended rate traffic, unlimited calling (which people have
stated both tmobile and verizon wireless really are unlimited), and
more. It is quite possible that these companies are losing money on
this, and these companies also are some of the largest in their
particular market (CMRS), but it is not illegal.
So I wonder why you thought it should, or would be illegal for google to
give service away for free when first starting out trying to get
customers ...
--
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:02:44 -0400
From: SIP <sip@arcdiv.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] OT: Anti-dumping laws?
To: trixter@0xdecafbad.com, Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
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Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 10:33 -0400, SIP wrote:
>
>> Would then Skype be able to come back and do the same thing as an effort
>> to recapture any lost users? Or would that fall under some sort of
>> anti-dumping umbrella because it's now a foreign company that's giving
>> services away below cost?
>>
>>
>
> loss leaders are legal in the US unless you dominate the particular
> market, then there are anti-trust laws that come into play and they may
> not forbid it outright, it depends on the particulars.
>
> Google has virtually a 0 market share when it comes to pstn terminated
> voice traffic. As a result they do not have the same restrictions that
> someone who dominates the market has. As VoIP to the customer in
> general is only a small percentage of all telephone calls, most VoIP
> providers would not have such things.
>
> Telephony in the US is regulated, although how much depends on what
> exactly you are doing. It is legal for companies to sell below their
> cost, and in one FCC case it was specifically stated that companies
> cannot complain if they sell below cost and someone buys and uses the
> service, that the burden is on the carrier to file proper tariffs and
> enter into proper contracts with customers to avoid losing money if that
> is what they want.
>
> Look at blended rate traffic, unlimited calling (which people have
> stated both tmobile and verizon wireless really are unlimited), and
> more. It is quite possible that these companies are losing money on
> this, and these companies also are some of the largest in their
> particular market (CMRS), but it is not illegal.
>
> So I wonder why you thought it should, or would be illegal for google to
> give service away for free when first starting out trying to get
> customers ...
>
>
>
I don't necessarily think it would or should be illegal for Google. And,
as far as I know, anti-dumping laws only apply to non-US companies.
Which is why I was wondering if Skype would get hit by them if it tried
to do the same thing, as they're a market leader and they're a
non-domestic company.
N.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:04:35 -0400
From: Steve Totaro <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Update: Looks like Nufone is finally dead
and out of business
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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http://www.mailfunnel.org/asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com/2005-11/msg00174.html
Just read and keep hitting "Thread Next"
It was bound to happen with that attitude. He was doomed from day one with
his business model.
1. Provide VoIP Service (Sometimes works)
2. Treat Customers Like Crap and Provide No Support
3. Collect premiums
4. Profit
Sounds good but people want reliable VoIP service that works and they want
support and to be treated professionally, especially when paying for a
service with hard earned dollars.
Know your strengths, if you are not good with people, then hire someone who
is. If you are not a good manager, then hire one, If you are good with
tech stuff and limited to that, stay in the server room.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where can I read more?
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Trixter aka Bret McDanel <
> trixter@0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 16:40 -0700, Justin Newman wrote:
>> > Another one bites the dust: Looks like Nufone is finally dead and out of
>> business.
>> >
>> > I heard they may be selling some of their software, name, and other
>> items to another company, but that it probably won't happen.
>> >
>>
>> I heard that already happened in essence when they got bailed out after
>> the issues of not charging what it cost to route calls and losing $400k
>> in one month.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
>> pgp key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x8AE5C721
>>
>>
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Hi Wes,
In order to "off-load" your customer needs to put out a better proposition. If I can purchase the unit from DELL for 299 + Shipping + Insurance, paying your customer 295$ + shipping + insurance doesn't seem logical.
I'm confident that if the proposition would have given a 15% discount on the base price of
the unit, it would get a much better traction with the participants of the list than just a 4$ discount.
Nir S
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It's just a couple bucks cheaper from me thats all. I have a customer who I manage the pbx system for, he' stuck with a 100+ units, so I am trying to help him offload.--On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Pascal Bruno <tipascal@gmail.com> wrote:
Its about the same price on dell.com, what else you offer more than them?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:
I have 100 Dell Mini 10v's brand new sealed if any one is interested. These are not refurbs. Ubuntu or Win XP
I'm looking for $295 each plus shipping.
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Hi Wes,
In order to "off-load" your customer needs to put out a better proposition. If I can purchase the unit from DELL for 299 + Shipping + Insurance, paying your customer 295$ + shipping + insurance doesn't seem logical.
I'm confident that if the proposition would have given a 15% discount on the base price of
the unit, it would get a much better traction with the participants of the list than just a 4$ discount.
Nir S
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:It's just a couple bucks cheaper from me thats all. I have a customer who I manage the pbx system for, he' stuck with a 100+ units, so I am trying to help him offload.--On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Pascal Bruno <tipascal@gmail.com> wrote:
Its about the same price on dell.com, what else you offer more than them?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:
I have 100 Dell Mini 10v's brand new sealed if any one is interested. These are not refurbs. Ubuntu or Win XP
I'm looking for $295 each plus shipping.
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It's just a couple bucks cheaper from me thats all. I have a customer who I manage the pbx system for, he' stuck with a 100+ units, so I am trying to help him offload.--On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Pascal Bruno <tipascal@gmail.com> wrote:
Its about the same price on dell.com, what else you offer more than them?
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:
I have 100 Dell Mini 10v's brand new sealed if any one is interested. These are not refurbs. Ubuntu or Win XP
I'm looking for $295 each plus shipping.
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> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I have 100 Dell Mini 10v's brand new sealed if any one is interested. These
>> are not refurbs. Ubuntu or Win XP
>>
>> I'm looking for $295 each plus shipping.
Wow, $4 discount, eh?
Unless they are the Intel N280 chip, come with the 160GB drive or SSD,
56WHr battery, Bluetooth, Dell's got 'em new for $299.00.
Why should people buy from you Wes instead of Dell? Maybe your offer is
better than you make it seem.
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