Saturday, June 27, 2009

Re: [asterisk-biz] iPhone 3.0 app for asterisk?

yes

it is useless to waste time in order to develop software for this
product with these restrictions


Il giorno 27/giu/09, alle ore 18:10, Trixter aka Bret McDanel ha
scritto:

> On Sat, 2009-06-27 at 17:47 +0200, Ron Arts wrote:
>> SIP clients for the iPhone suck. Because of the Apple restriction
>> that apps cannot run in the background. Also as soon as you receive
>> a GSM call, your VoIP call is terminated, and the iPhone phone app
>> pops up.
>
> that is a problem with the iphone and not sip clients per se, as a
> result it may not be the best tool to be looking for, if you can
> drop a
> VoIP call merely by calling the gsm number.
>
> According to a Sr. VP of iPhone software this is to combat stupid
> people
> "Most implementations often incorrectly lead users to believe that
> they've quit programs when they remain open, reducing the battery life
> and hurting processor performance with each open application."
>
> I personally would not want a facist phone that tells me I am too
> stupid
> to manage apps running on it, and they need to do that for me, but
> that
> is just me. I am acutely aware of the apps running on both my linux
> based and windows mobile based smartphones, and think that its
> silly for
> someone to arbitrarily decide that I should have a crippled OS simply
> because some users are not so aware.
>
> It also looks like apple will have a stricter approval policy on apps
> that run in the background. The whole concept that I bought the
> phone,
> I own the hardware, yet I have to get permission to run
> applications and
> can only run the ones they let me, seems silly. If this limitation
> were
> placed on desktops then its unlikely that people would use that. Some
> people like to develop applications that do a specific task and do not
> want to have to jump through hoops to install their software on their
> hardware, especially if it conflicts with some business model of the
> seller of said hardware. this might be fine for game consoles, but
> people rarely use a game console for business, and when you add in the
> business aspect it makes it a different argument.
>
> So for this to be possible, and what I just read on the push stuff
> it is
> not as possible to stop the voip app dies when you get a phone
> call, you
> would have to get apple's permission to do it, which would require
> them
> to have no vested interest in not using the GSM network, which I
> believe
> since they are tied to the carriers they allow to carry the phone
> it is
> not. The push stuff basically lets an app know that it has to perform
> some task, if it dies because something else popped up it appears all
> you can do is bring it back up, but the call would still be trashed.
>
> Its a whole big pile of facism, they tell you how you are allowed
> to use
> your phone, they approve which apps you can use with your phone, and
> this will not work well for all users, as a result it would not be
> something I would stake my business on.
>
>
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