Thursday, September 3, 2009

Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Barton, from your unrelated reply it is very obvious that you haven't even read the thread. Go read it first and then give your opinion.

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Zeeshan A Zakaria

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Barton Fisher <bhfisher@icpage.com> wrote:
Zeeshan, give it up - If you don't like the answer, then go ask your questions elsewhere. Don't complain about the the answer. Further, the mail list is not the place to air out your problems with another user  - That's what email is for; or even better use the delete button and go on with your life....

But I'm fairly certain you've burn yourself for any additional help from the list

My 2 cents,

Bart

Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:
Alex, basically you don't want people to post on this list because it bothers you why people don't know what they are asking for, or what they want what you don't like. As far as I have seen you read posts with the purpose to find something to object on. It has nothing to do with laziness or English. Its only a bad habit of yours. You even have book marked such posts to refer to, which you just did here for Rehan's post. If you have problem with somebody's posting, don't read it. Why are you reading it if you don't like it. The objective of your replies is to make the posters feel bad for asking anything, or maybe you have nothing better to do in life, and have enough spare time to sit, read and object on people's posts. I am sure you must be doing the same on some other mailing lists.

Next time, just delete my email, I really don't need your responses. Or maybe I should start ending my posts with "Not for Alex Balashov" so you know it is not for you. It is unbelievable that your negative comments on a small two line email asking for a good provider with option for IAX trunk has converted it into a huge thread of useless discussion.

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Zeeshan A Zakaria

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com <mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com>> wrote:

   Pascal Bruno wrote:

   > But remember the list is international, even myself, english is
   not my
   > mother language, so some questions will never be as clear as you
   would
   > expect and yes lazy do people exist, but it would not harm nobody to
   > point them to the right direction without teaching them everything
   > and making them feel unwelcomed. Also I believe one must be
   objective as
   > much as you can but at the same time free to give personal opinions
   > while clearly saying it is a personal opinion, if not, you may be
   > minimizing the novices to explore and experience other stuff by
   themself
   > and see what works best for them.

   This is a valid argument, and I cannot dispute it.

   Regarding lazyness vs. English, many people will often try to mask
   their
   lazyness or unwillingness to pose intellectually coherent,
   well-thought
   out and realistic questions by hiding behind the "English is not my
   native language" defense.

   It doesn't work, and the difference is trivial to see.  I have
   seen far,
   far higher-quality questions asked by people whose English skills are
   vastly below those of the non-native-English-speaking drive-by posters
   on this family of lists.  The intent to ask something specific and
   cogent can be discerned, and legitimate language barriers are
   understandable and can be gotten around.

   I suppose there are some conversations that simply cannot be had
   because
   the original posters' English limitations are simply
   insurmountable, but
   I think I've only seen one or two posts like that in my entire time
   here, if that.  The rest use the fallacious Rehan Defense:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com/msg24232.html

   -- Alex

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