on Forbes.com and you are certainly not comparing thousands to eighty
eight? Don't really get the logic....
http://www.forbes.com/2000/09/07/mu3.html
"Tyson also says that the 88 deaths are linked to all 47 million
Bridgestone/Firestone tires the NHTSA has studied, not just the 6.5
million that have been recalled."
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Dean Collins <Dean@cognation.net> wrote:
> Steve lets not get into a cross country pissing match-otherwise someone will point out the Firestone Tires debacle (good old USA made) - where defective products were sold for years putting millions of American lives at risk.
>
>
> Besides this is a voip list, we should be trying to bridge these divides.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dean Collins
> Cognation Pty Ltd
> dean@cognation.net
> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>
>
> > bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
> > Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 8:55 AM
> > To: nk3569@yahoo.com; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] NovoGate SIP/H323 16/32 FXS/FXO Channel Bank
> >
> > We can barely even protect ourselves from poison and counterfeit goods
> > from China, and have no real recourse. How many dogs died? How many
> > people?
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/06/news/toxic.php
> >
> > I seriously doubt (and hope) that spam is high on the list at this point.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve Totaro
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Nitzan Kon <nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I think we have a China vs. US mindset here. Andy, maybe in China spam is still
> > OK. But here in the US not only is it NOT OK - it is illegal and there have been known
> > cases of people suing spammers and winning.
> > >
> > > It's probably just a matter of time before we see cross-border lawsuits regarding
> > spam. I'm no lawyer, but my guess is that if you sue a foreign company for spamming
> > you and win- you should be able to garnish any assets they hold in the US to pay for
> > the judgment. I would think twice about spamming US citizens if it could be linked to
> > you legally...
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 4/18/08, Andy Spring <andyspr@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Andy Spring <andyspr@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] NovoGate SIP/H323 16/32 FXS/FXO Channel Bank
> > > > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-
> > biz@lists.digium.com>
> > > > Date: Friday, April 18, 2008, 3:39 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > > but if jimmy pan do not send these spams, how can I know
> > > > they can provide
> > > > these products which I am interested, so some spam maybe
> > > > are not useful to
> > > > you but useful to some other people. So welcome spams if
> > > > the spamer is in
> > > > honesty not like some spamers only send spam but reply
> > > > nothing.
> > > >
> > > > 2008/4/18, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
> > > > <cdl@asgaard.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope Andy - there is no such thing as good and useful
> > > > spams.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > On 18 Apr 2008, at 00.42, Andy Spring wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome good and useful spams
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/4/18, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
> > > > <cdl@asgaard.org>: -----BEGIN
> > > > > > PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yup - just dropped him into the spam filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 17 Apr 2008, at 16.04, Matthew Rubenstein
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is anyone else getting spammed by
> > > > Jimmy Pan <jimmypan@icstel.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > directly to your direct email address, with
> > > > the quoted/appended
> > > > > > > message,
> > > > > > > plus a big image of their product (including
> > > > more pitch text and
> > > > > > > contact
> > > > > > > info in pixels) in the message?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 00:22 +0200, Jimmy Pan
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> Dear Sir ,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> http://www.icstel.com/novogate.html
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If you are interested in this item, pls
> > > > let us know. Thanks!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Best Regards
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Jimmy Pan
> > > > > > >> I.C.S. France
> > > > > > >> 38 Rue Dunois, 75013 Paris France
> > > > > > >> Tel: 0033 1 77 69 58 67 Fax: 0033 1 56
> > > > 61 28 33
> > > > > > >> E-mail: jimmypan@icstel.com Website:
> > > > http://www.icstel.com
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (C) Matthew Rubenstein
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > - ---
> > > > > > 李柯睿
> > > > > > Check my PGP key here:
> > > > > >
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> > > > > Check my PGP key here:
> > > > >
> > > > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xCB67593B
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