I can't believe the Discussion on this board has gotten so political. People everywhere should be part of this new world economy which VOIP and other products are shared. Please keep in mind that any business that products a bad product will suffer. I'm sure every Chinese manufactures will have the same greed as US manufactures to make as much money and to cut corners whenever they can get away with it. I welcome the world economy to spread the wealth to all the people.
Cliff
From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andy Spring
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:39 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] NovoGate SIP/H323 16/32 FXS/FXO Channel Bank
Again, Chinese People love peace and very glad to make friends with any peaceful people from any country no matter they are rich or poor. And Chinese people also very glad to make business with any people from any country with their good quality products and service. Chiese people and any other peaceful and kind people are great.
在08-4-18，Andy Spring <andyspr@gmail.com> 写道：
How can you prove those goods is imported from China? How can you prove that person is died by Chinese food, I think Chinese people are very working-hard and they are now making progress by their own hand and their hard work. Not like some people and some country to invade some other developing country and rob other country's oil with their gun and bomb, Not like some people and some country to put their own idea they think right but wrong to other people to the people from developing countries. Yes, some people and some country think they are world police and intervene other country's home politics, they think they are right, because they have strong army and strong bomb and battleplan, then what is that?? that is robber for sure, is it right?
2008/4/18, Steve Totaro <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com>:
We can barely even protect ourselves from poison and counterfeit goods
from China, and have no real recourse. How many dogs died? How many
people? http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/06/news/toxic.php
I seriously doubt (and hope) that spam is high on the list at this point.
Thanks,
Steve Totaro
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Nitzan Kon <nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think we have a China vs. US mindset here. Andy, maybe in China spam is still OK. But here in the US not only is it NOT OK - it is illegal and there have been known cases of people suing spammers and winning.
>
> It's probably just a matter of time before we see cross-border lawsuits regarding spam. I'm no lawyer, but my guess is that if you sue a foreign company for spamming you and win- you should be able to garnish any assets they hold in the US to pay for the judgment. I would think twice about spamming US citizens if it could be linked to you legally...
>
> --- On Fri, 4/18/08, Andy Spring <andyspr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Andy Spring <andyspr@gmail.com>
>
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] NovoGate SIP/H323 16/32 FXS/FXO Channel Bank
> > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> > Date: Friday, April 18, 2008, 3:39 AM
>
>
> > but if jimmy pan do not send these spams, how can I know
> > they can provide
> > these products which I am interested, so some spam maybe
> > are not useful to
> > you but useful to some other people. So welcome spams if
> > the spamer is in
> > honesty not like some spamers only send spam but reply
> > nothing.
> >
> > 2008/4/18, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
> > <cdl@asgaard.org>:
> > >
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Nope Andy - there is no such thing as good and useful
> > spams.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > On 18 Apr 2008, at 00.42, Andy Spring wrote:
> > >
> > > > Welcome good and useful spams
> > > >
> > > > 2008/4/18, Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
> > <cdl@asgaard.org>: -----BEGIN
> > > > PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > Yup - just dropped him into the spam filter.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > On 17 Apr 2008, at 16.04, Matthew Rubenstein
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Is anyone else getting spammed by
> > Jimmy Pan <jimmypan@icstel.com
> > > > >
> > > > > directly to your direct email address, with
> > the quoted/appended
> > > > > message,
> > > > > plus a big image of their product (including
> > more pitch text and
> > > > > contact
> > > > > info in pixels) in the message?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 00:22 +0200, Jimmy Pan
> > wrote:
> > > > >> Dear Sir ,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.icstel.com/novogate.html
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If you are interested in this item, pls
> > let us know. Thanks!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Best Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jimmy Pan
> > > > >> I.C.S. France
> > > > >> 38 Rue Dunois, 75013 Paris France
> > > > >> Tel: 0033 1 77 69 58 67 Fax: 0033 1 56
> > 61 28 33
> > > > >> E-mail: jimmypan@icstel.com Website:
> > http://www.icstel.com
> > > > >>
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > (C) Matthew Rubenstein
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > Check my PGP key here:
> > > >
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