Sunday, November 9, 2008

Re: [asterisk-biz] General development funding: discussion and survey

Apologies for bringing up an old thread but I had hoped it would have continued on it's own and I take issue with Xorcom's code getting included and causing issue after issue.

Kevin said "I believe that redfone did submit their driver for inclusion into
Zaptel, and that it was rejected for the reasons you mentioned (coding
guidelines and code quality). We do not accept code that does not
conform to at least reasonable standards of quality, because doing so
would allow the code base to deteriorate and increase everyone else's
support burden."

Joeseph has a different story.  I would like to know what the "REAL" reason is for not including his code.

I would also like to know why xpp (Xorcom) stuff has it's own Zaptel release bug fixes (and I assume DAHDI as well) because it is released buggy and won't build without hacking source code.  By default, I do make menuselect and remove xpp now because I don't feel like fixing buggy Xorcom code.

I only mention this because of Kevin's statements about not meeting coding guidlines.  I would assume part of coding guidelines is the ability to build from source provided dependencies are met,  without crapping out.

Kevin Flemming "We do not accept code that does not
conform to at least reasonable standards of quality, because doing so
would allow the code base to deteriorate and increase everyone else's
support burden."

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On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Joseph Benden <joe@thrallingpenguin.com> wrote:
Hello all,

I am the author and maintainer of TDMoE-Multiframe.

[please do not read the following as an attack, but rather simple
comments.]

The code did not have any major coding or quality issues, but rather
had licensing issues because I had an old license on file and Digium
switching to a newer license (which I was unaware of the change), I
submitted the new license (which was approved) and now the code sits
and rots in the tracker, along with the new DAHDI implementation of
the driver.

This is not unusual around this part of the open source world. I've
had other patches and contributions that have experienced the same fate.

I do deal (program, patch, etc.) with other open source software and
do not have this much trouble in having the maintainers accept the
code. I assume their projects are just as widespread (proftpd, clamav,
freebsd), so using the number of outstanding patches as a reason for
not accepting them is not convincing to me.

Because of the difficulties in having Asterisk accept the Solaris
community (read as: accept high availability patches and Solaris/
OpenSolaris specific patches), I had to fork the project which then
became SolarisVoip.com

I am trying to work towards updating SolarisVoip.com to 1.6 (including
the DAHDI drivers), but am very hesitant. Would Digium finally agree
to working with me in possibly having my yet-to-be patches for
Solaris? How about a branch/module for the Solaris specific DAHDI
drivers? I tried in the past at working with Digium, but was always
pushed to the side and forgotten (even though some within Digium
seemed happy to work with me.)

Comments, suggestions, or ideas welcomed!

Best Regards,
Joseph Benden

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On Oct 31, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:

> Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
>> Bill Michaelson wrote:
>>
>>> ztd-ethmf.c
>>
>> As I said, that driver has been part of Zaptel, so could not have
>> been
>> removed.
>
> Correction: it was in Zaptel SVN for a very short time, it had been
> committed without proper code review. It was removed quickly
> thereafter,
> and was never part of an Zaptel release.
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