Re: [asterisk-biz] ANI

Miles Scruggs wrote:

On May 11, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:   

Since when did the big boys not eventually get what they want from the government?       

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Alex Balashov       

Bill Michaelson wrote:          

Miles Scruggs wrote:           

` Welcome to IP baby, you really can't lock it down using the traditional methods.  As much as you would like to think that the entity converting the IP to PSTN should/would/could/does correctly specify the absolute correct ANI/CID it is quite the opposite on a large scale.  Unless someone dreams up a new way to enforce or efficiently verify CID/ANI and the big boys actually implement   it this isn't likely to change.               

Digital signatures?  a la RSA?           

Clever, agile, and very ingenious and all-around open-source   affirmative of you.  But you might have missed the "big boys actually   implement it" part.  :-)          

Well a government mandate would make the "Big Boys actually   implement it."  Let me spoof NSA with DHS ANI and visa versa using WiFi and a hacked asterisk box.  E911 was mandated and is semi functional, the government just has to step in.  They only step in when there are votes on the line or money (and occasionally public safety, usually for PR reasons)  Thanks, Steve Totaro       

 I don't get why you or anyone thinks we need a solution to this.

It's a discussion of possibilities.  That's all.

  Just   because something has capacity for exploitation doesn't mean we need   the government to step in and define an implementation that removes   the exploitation.  Someone else on this list is convinced that there   are existing laws against it with penalties (I assume) for violation.    This is pretty standard for any offenses against others: theft assault   murder etc.  Asking the government to solve this issue, and enforce a   solution would be like wanting them to enforce your ISP to check all   emails leaving their clients to ensure they are actually coming from   their subscribers.  Looks great on paper, and sure it would cut down   on spam, but are you ready to bend over and take that up the.....  Dear god am I the only person on this list who thinks the government   (especially the US gov) is the last entity that we want solving issues   and enforcing implementations? 

Why do you feel so alone?  Take a breath.  Relax.  Now read the thread again, carefully.  There are a variety of suggestions and ideas, few conclusions, and your inferences about people's positions are overblown.

 I know they have great track record   and are really good at that sort of thing......  Leave them exactly   where they are good at.  Defining when it is wrong, and giving those   that don't obey the smack down, but please don't go inviting them into   play big brother.  Miles  _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--  asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:    http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz