Re: [asterisk-biz] Dear Termination Providers,

On Friday 01 May 2009 15:52:44 Tim Panton wrote:

> On 27 Apr 2009, at 21:03, Peter Beckman wrote:

> > On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Miles Scruggs wrote:

> >> I think you maybe shocked to see what a full rate deck actually looks

> >> like. A complete deck (if it is competitive) can be upwards of

> >> 300,000

> >> lines. If you have a termination provider that is selling US 48 at a

> >> flat rate with no restrictions they either aren't doing it to every

> >> market, or it is way over priced. (If anyone out there wants to

> >> terminate the US 48 with no restrictions for $0.01/min I have a

> >> little

> >> over 1,000,000 per day to send you)

> >>

> >> What really gets me is all the different ways that international is

> >> done, and the fact that most sheets give you names instead of dialing

> >> codes. Names are next to useless when trying to rate a call and

> >> every

> >> carrier has a different name for each dialing code compared to the

> >> next carrier out there. In short being competitive with your rates,

> >> and billing calls isn't not trivial which is why some billing

> >> software

> >> alone runs upwards of $100,000.

> >>

> >> None of these are great reasons for not publishing a deck, but the

> >> average person buying termination doesn't want to bother with a

> >> 300,000 line long rate deck.

> >

> > That's ok -- don't publish it! But when I'm your customer, I want

> > your

> > rates, all of them, in a computer-digestable format, and easily

> > updatable.

> > If you are giving me a flat rate, I want to see that in the rate

> > deck. If

> > you want to publish something different to the public, great! But

> > as a

> > customer, I want the full rate deck for EVERY destination

> > supported, so I

> > don't have to manually update the rates you left out because you

> > didn't

> > consider the US worthy of inclusion.

> >

> > I understand some do full npanxx, but most I deal with (I'm a small

> > fry

> > compared to your 1M minutes per day) give me a flat blended rate,

> > and I

> > want to know what I can and cannot terminate to and at what cost.

>

> Teliax have (had?) this web service that you can call with a number

> and it returns the rate in xml.

>

> They also publish their rates as csv files so you can import them.

>

> Tim.

Isn't there a need for a Web service here?