Re: [asterisk-biz] on the topic of fraud

Yeah still meant to say that its irrelevant to Verizon etc,

The FBI had to take it all
As far as WHY it all started it smells funny.. Verizon etc WOULD OF cut them
on first late payment,

And we all know they would need @ least 1 week worth of traffic in advance..

Call L3, and say you want to send them 30 million minutes.. ask for how much
is the deposit..

Never saw a credit line for this.. unless you're a big boy,
oracle/ibm/Microsoft.
I doubt you would have one for that volume.

So something is not right from the beginning, cascading into a cluste..k
that will never end,

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>>bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nitzan Kon
>>Sent: May-17-09 10:49 PM
>>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] on the topic of fraud
>>
>>
>>That analogy is false. A loaded gun can be used to kill people
>>if the criminal still has it - and there is no other way to
>>stop the killing other than to take it away.
>>
>>In this case Verizon/AT&T could EASILY shut down their access
>>without confiscating any equipment whatsoever.
>>
>>As a business owner it worries me greatly that my equipment
>>could be confiscated for essentially forever just because
>>some idiot in the next cage decided it's a good idea to
>>defraud AT&T.
>>
>>I mention forever because in essence servers these days get
>>replaced every few years anyway. If they kept the equipment
>>for 2-3 years they've essentially kept it beyond the useful
>>life of the machine.
>>
>> -- Nitzan
>>
>>--- On Sun, 5/17/09, ContactTel Business <lists@contacttel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: ContactTel Business <lists@contacttel.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] on the topic of fraud
>>> To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'"
>><asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 12:52 PM
>>> Not how it works...
>>>
>>> Data could be on drives that could allow the guys to
>>> continue doing what
>>> they were doing, which is illegal in a way.
>>>
>>> You can't leave a loaded gun in a killers hand, and just
>>> clone it
>>>
>>> One of the reason they took it all, is to stop the
>>> hemorrhagic situation,
>>> then to analyse,
>>>
>>> There are tons of killswitch systems out there
>>
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