Monday, August 31, 2009

Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Lol, funny. This is the question I was asking. But you went to talk
about the moon lol. So to the best of your knowledge it is a fact.
Thats what you were suppose to answer since the beginning. And thanks
for letting me know about the iax design that is wrong, even when this
was not my question, maybe a good way for you to start so you can get
to your conclusion, but this does not back up your conclusion since
SIP is not perfect itself, they are both getting improved still today.
I am not saying what you are saying is wrong but your intro was
useless. And we all know SIP is the most supported and most used for
obvious reason. And we all know IAX is mostly used by people in the
Asterisk world for obvious reason too. You know what IAX stands for.
And also in the guys question there was a keyword you missed probably,
he said PREFERABLY IAX, lol the way you talk makes me think you have
some personal problem with asterisk or maybe digium?

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Alex Balashov
<abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:

> Pascal Bruno wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Alex Balashov
>> <abalashov@evaristesys.com <mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Pascal Bruno wrote:
>>
>>> Is this a fact or your personal opinion? Did you ask most large-
>>> scale
>>> providers what they are using and they reply everything but
>>> asterisk?
>>> How do you know?
>>
>> Oh - a strong empiricist. Charming.
>>
>> Did you go to the Moon and check if it actually has craters?
>>
>>
>> I did not, but I have seen pictures from NASA and reports of studies
>> they made, so they actually have some facts and things to back it
>> up and
>> that was not personal opinion, so that's exactly what I was asking if
>> what you are saying is personal opinion or you have some facts. No
>> need
>> to feel offended here.
>
> Indeed. In addition to having no support among manufacturers of VoIP
> network elements used in service delivery platforms of nontrivial size
> (I am not referring to phones or ATAs), IAX has a fundamental design
> flaw that makes it unworkable for large amounts of traffic.
>
> Its principal issue is that precisely because of that aspect of
> which is
> touted most - that it mixes the signaling and bearer plane into one
> packet stream - it cannot be used in larger, more decoupled assemblies
> of numerous media gateways controlled by one peripheral signaling
> agent.
>
> No, I don't have any direct quotations from Level3, Global Crossing,
> XO,
> or a handful of smaller vendors that the rest of these ITSPs are
> reselling in some shape or form saying that they don't do IAX handoff.
> However, my main line of work is in service delivery platform
> engineering and scalable architecture, and I work with actual
> carriers a
> fair bit.
>
> Like you, I can make some conclusions from my experience and knowledge
> that has crystallised, and refer to it on the basis of inductive
> claims.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, it is a fact that nobody outside the
> Asterisk cottage industry gives a hoot about IAX.
>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Did you see the IAX load balancer that Gradwell.com contributed that
they wrote and use?


On 31/08/2009, Matt Riddell <lists@venturevoip.com> wrote:
> On 31/08/09 9:29 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:
>> So Alex, in other words you are saying that IAX providers are "not
>> good", i.e. "bad" providers. Is this a fact or just your personal
>> opinion? Do you have any reference(s) to support it? My experience shows
>> that IAX is a better choice, plus various IAX vs SIP comparison
>> documents I have gone through over time show IAX a better option. Maybe
>> you are referring to some protocol other than SIP, but didn't mention it.
>
> What he means is that you're not likely to be able to buy IAX
> termination off someone like verizon or global crossing or whatever.
>
> There's currently no decent IAX load balancer, so you have to do it
> other ways - for SIP there are a few choices.
>
> We work around it by having lots of boxes and round robin DNS, but it's
> pretty rare - most people just do SIP.
>
> --
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>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Any installations in European Consulates or Embassies?

I would be so paranoid... what if they want that information to see what
embassies can be hacked?

CS

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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of John Todd
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:53 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Any installations in European Consulates or
Embassies?


I've got a rather unusual request to discover if any European Consulates are
running Asterisk as their PBX platform. For that matter, are there any
embassies that could step forward? This is for a private query (by another
consulate) and replies may be privately held if requested, other than
informing the end user. Or they may be public, which would be preferred so
we can get various government agencies on the list of reference-able sites.

JT

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Pascal Bruno wrote:

> Lol, mr "know everything"

Save the iPod for music.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Lol, mr "know everything"

Sent from my iPod

On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:

There is, I think, a difference between vendors that just happen to offer IAX trunks alongside their SIP mainstay, and vendors that specialize in IAX.  I think that's what I was trying to get at.

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On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Alex for your kind inputs resulting in a very informative discussion. I was almost going to abandon all my years old IAX trunks. I'll certainly consider your recommendation.

--
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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

> Alex, you definately need new reading glasses. My question was "I need a
> good USA virtual PRIs provider, who can also offer USA DIDs. Preferably
> IAX trunking and g711".
>
> If you couldn't answer the question, there was no need to start a "IAX"
> vs "What Alex thinks" debate.

You're absolutely right.

I recommend you go either with Teliax (they have a long track record of
doing IAX) or DIDx.net, which ... has a long track record.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

I havent had any problems out of them...


> From: Mitul Limbani <mitul@enterux.com>
> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:06:28 +0530
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of
> SIP T.38
>
> Their 24 port ata just hangs without any reason what are you talking
about
> reliability?


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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

Their 24 port ata just hangs without any reason what are you talking
about reliability?

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On 01-Sep-2009, at 9:45 AM, Ken Rice <krice@rmktek.com> wrote:

> Oh and note I didn't say anything about their phone...
>
> Also their 24 port ATA is actually pretty nice... I dunno about
> their older
> stuff but everything I have gotten in the past year has been pretty
> good
>
>
>> From: Nir Simionovich <nir.simionovich@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:52:47 +0300
>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can
>> Handle FAX of
>> SIP T.38
>>
>> HandyTones are reliable??? let me check the pile of 20 broken units I
>> have. If there is one vendor I usually stay away from is GrandStream.
>>
>> Ken Rice wrote:
>>> Handytones... They are cheap and reliable
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> ---
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From: *Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
>>> *Reply-To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>>> *Date: *Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
>>> *To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>>> *Subject: *[asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can
>>> Handle FAX
>>> of SIP T.38
>>>
>>> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the
>>> Mitel PBX
>>> via some type of internal analog adapter. I'll be installing Sw
>>> itchvox
>>> SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a 'proven' adapter that can handle this n
>>> eed?
>>>
>>> Thanks All.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

I'm with Ken - I've had good experiences with Handytones as fax<->T.38
adapters. T.38 support seems to be pretty rare in the ATA world.

--Dave

> Ditto.
>
> Nir Simionovich wrote:
>
> > HandyTones are reliable??? let me check the pile of 20 broken units I
> > have. If there is one vendor I usually stay away from is GrandStream.
> >
> > Ken Rice wrote:
> >> Handytones... They are cheap and reliable
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> *From: *Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
> >> *Reply-To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> >> *Date: *Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
> >> *To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> >> *Subject: *[asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX
> >> of SIP T.38
> >>
> >> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX
> >> via some type of internal analog adapter. I'll be installing Switchvox
> >> SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
> >>
> >> Can anyone recommend a 'proven' adapter that can handle this need?
> >>
> >> Thanks All.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

Ken Rice wrote:

> Now t38 isnt the answer to
> everything but once you have it working its far better than 711 passthru

Until Super G3/V.34 shows up. :-(

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

Oh and note I didn't say anything about their phone...

Also their 24 port ATA is actually pretty nice... I dunno about their older
stuff but everything I have gotten in the past year has been pretty good


> From: Nir Simionovich <nir.simionovich@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:52:47 +0300
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of
> SIP T.38
>
> HandyTones are reliable??? let me check the pile of 20 broken units I
> have. If there is one vendor I usually stay away from is GrandStream.
>
> Ken Rice wrote:
>> Handytones... They are cheap and reliable
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
>> *Reply-To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> *Date: *Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
>> *To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> *Subject: *[asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX
>> of SIP T.38
>>
>> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX
>> via some type of internal analog adapter. I¹ll be installing Switchvox
>> SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a Œproven¹ adapter that can handle this need?
>>
>> Thanks All.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

I have a stack of the HT286's and have had little trouble from them (as
compared to pap2s/spa2000 series that don't do t38) ... He specifically said
"CAN HANDLE FAX" where as a PAP2/SPA will do faxing in 711 passthru this is
far less than optimal as t38 is designed to handle faxing specifically by
eliminating the need to encode a digital fax in an analog signal inside
another digital packetize datastream... Now t38 isnt the answer to
everything but once you have it working its far better than 711 passthru


> From: Nir Simionovich <nir.simionovich@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:52:47 +0300
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of
> SIP T.38
>
> HandyTones are reliable??? let me check the pile of 20 broken units I
> have. If there is one vendor I usually stay away from is GrandStream.
>
> Ken Rice wrote:
>> Handytones... They are cheap and reliable
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
>> *Reply-To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> *Date: *Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
>> *To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> *Subject: *[asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX
>> of SIP T.38
>>
>> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX
>> via some type of internal analog adapter. I¹ll be installing Switchvox
>> SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a Œproven¹ adapter that can handle this need?
>>
>> Thanks All.
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

Ditto.

Nir Simionovich wrote:

> HandyTones are reliable??? let me check the pile of 20 broken units I
> have. If there is one vendor I usually stay away from is GrandStream.
>
> Ken Rice wrote:
>> Handytones... They are cheap and reliable
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From: *Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
>> *Reply-To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> *Date: *Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
>> *To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> *Subject: *[asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX
>> of SIP T.38
>>
>> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX
>> via some type of internal analog adapter. I'll be installing Switchvox
>> SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a 'proven' adapter that can handle this need?
>>
>> Thanks All.
>>
>> Brian
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

HandyTones are reliable??? let me check the pile of 20 broken units I
have. If there is one vendor I usually stay away from is GrandStream.

Ken Rice wrote:
> Handytones... They are cheap and reliable
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: *Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
> *Reply-To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> *Date: *Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
> *To: *Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> *Subject: *[asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX
> of SIP T.38
>
> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX
> via some type of internal analog adapter. I'll be installing Switchvox
> SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
>
> Can anyone recommend a 'proven' adapter that can handle this need?
>
> Thanks All.
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] North America Internet bandwidth

On 1/09/09 1:23 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
> The question was about North America. My answer was implicitly scoped
> to North America. I should have been clearer about that.

Sweet :)

> Other countries - particularly smaller and topographically isolated ones
> such as NZ - have a myriad of other arrangements.

Who you calling small? :)

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Re: [asterisk-biz] North America Internet bandwidth

I also know that if you purchase circuits in China you have this same type pricing model... A local cheaper circuit (aka behind the Chinese firewall) is much faster domestically (in China) but an international one (a private circuit to Hong Kong where you pick up internet access/ therefore bypassing the great fw) is MUCH MUCH more expensive (around $5K/mo per meg)...

So Jack if you are buying a circuit in the US and/or Canada then whatever you look at will be an international circuit.

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
Matt Riddell wrote:

> On 1/09/09 12:22 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
>> Jack Chen wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know if there is international internet bandwidth in N/A.
>>> If I am ordering a 100M dedicated bandwidth, will this link include
>>> internatinoal bandwidth and how much?
>> Internet bandwidth is Internet bandwidth.  It is not topologically
>> organised along national boundaries.
>
> Not quite correct internationally.
>
> Here in New Zealand we pay for national and international bandwidth.
>
> So, we have to purchase a package for national bandwidth (i.e. 10Mbit
> guaranteed - no cap) and a package for international bandwidth (i.e.
> 5Mbit and 100GB cap).

The question was about North America.  My answer was implicitly scoped
to North America.  I should have been clearer about that.

Other countries - particularly smaller and topographically isolated ones
such as NZ - have a myriad of other arrangements.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] North America Internet bandwidth

Matt Riddell wrote:

> On 1/09/09 12:22 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
>> Jack Chen wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to know if there is international internet bandwidth in N/A.
>>> If I am ordering a 100M dedicated bandwidth, will this link include
>>> internatinoal bandwidth and how much?
>> Internet bandwidth is Internet bandwidth. It is not topologically
>> organised along national boundaries.
>
> Not quite correct internationally.
>
> Here in New Zealand we pay for national and international bandwidth.
>
> So, we have to purchase a package for national bandwidth (i.e. 10Mbit
> guaranteed - no cap) and a package for international bandwidth (i.e.
> 5Mbit and 100GB cap).

The question was about North America. My answer was implicitly scoped
to North America. I should have been clearer about that.

Other countries - particularly smaller and topographically isolated ones
such as NZ - have a myriad of other arrangements.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] North America Internet bandwidth

On 1/09/09 12:22 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:
> Jack Chen wrote:
>
>> I would like to know if there is international internet bandwidth in N/A.
>> If I am ordering a 100M dedicated bandwidth, will this link include
>> internatinoal bandwidth and how much?
>
> Internet bandwidth is Internet bandwidth. It is not topologically
> organised along national boundaries.

Not quite correct internationally.

Here in New Zealand we pay for national and international bandwidth.

So, we have to purchase a package for national bandwidth (i.e. 10Mbit
guaranteed - no cap) and a package for international bandwidth (i.e.
5Mbit and 100GB cap).

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Re: [asterisk-biz] North America Internet bandwidth

Jack Chen wrote:

> I would like to know if there is international internet bandwidth in N/A.
> If I am ordering a 100M dedicated bandwidth, will this link include
> internatinoal bandwidth and how much?

Internet bandwidth is Internet bandwidth. It is not topologically
organised along national boundaries.

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[asterisk-biz] North America Internet bandwidth

I would like to know if there is international internet bandwidth in N/A.
If I am ordering a 100M dedicated bandwidth, will this link include
internatinoal bandwidth and how much?

jack
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> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:29:23 -0400
> From: Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for
> www.VisionVoIP.com
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> There is, I think, a difference between vendors that just happen to
> offer IAX trunks alongside their SIP mainstay, and vendors that
> specialize in IAX. I think that's what I was trying to get at.
>
> --
> Sent from mobile device
>
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Alex for your kind inputs resulting in a very informative
>> discussion. I was almost going to abandon all my years old IAX
>> trunks. I'll certainly consider your recommendation.
>>
>> --
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>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com
>> > wrote:
>> Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:
>>
>> > Alex, you definately need new reading glasses. My question was "I
>> need a
>> > good USA virtual PRIs provider, who can also offer USA DIDs.
>> Preferably
>> > IAX trunking and g711".
>> >
>> > If you couldn't answer the question, there was no need to start a
>> "IAX"
>> > vs "What Alex thinks" debate.
>>
>> You're absolutely right.
>>
>> I recommend you go either with Teliax (they have a long track record
>> of
>> doing IAX) or DIDx.net, which ... has a long track record.
>>
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> From: Matt Riddell <lists@venturevoip.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for
> www.VisionVoIP.com
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> On 1/09/09 4:55 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
>> Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
>>> didnt they allow the separation of media and signaling in later
>>> versions? Of course this would mean that you are at the whim of the
>>> users version of iax if they did, and if the user restricts the ability
>> I haven't heard anything about that.
>
> Yep, you can do media only transfer of IAX2 as well as the standard
> "entire transfer".
>
> It was added in a version of 1.4, but you'll need to be talking to other
> 1.4 boxes.
>
> IIRC the option is transfer=mediaonly or some such.
>
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> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:01:53 -0400
> From: Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Suggested MRC for 100 seat call center in US
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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> Just trying to get a general consensus here. I am bidding on a contract
> for
> a 100 seat call center located in the US. The contract is only for PBX
> service, inbound and outbound. Aside from the per minute charges, what do
> you suggest would be a good MRC for the pbx features and maintenance? How
> are others charging? Flat rate? Monthly fee per extension? Your insight
> would be of great help.
>
> --
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> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Suggested MRC for 100 seat call center in
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> I would charge them for the virtual SIP trunks/ports (no incoming call
> charge), + outbound minutes (where outbound uses ports) and a flat rate
> per
> month per seat... That way if they have to add more agents they have to
> buck up more per month for the lines and the software (aka seats)..
>
> A common scenario is to sell them bundles of the seats in say 25
> increments.. You want them to overbuy...
>
> Just my 2 cents..
>
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> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just trying to get a general consensus here. I am bidding on a contract
>> for
>> a 100 seat call center located in the US. The contract is only for PBX
>> service, inbound and outbound. Aside from the per minute charges, what do
>> you suggest would be a good MRC for the pbx features and maintenance? How
>> are others charging? Flat rate? Monthly fee per extension? Your insight
>> would be of great help.
>>
>> --
>> Thank you,
>>
>> -Wes-
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> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX
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> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX
> via some type of internal analog adapter. I'll be installing Switchvox
> SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
>
>
>
> Can anyone recommend a 'proven' adapter that can handle this need?
>
>
>
> Thanks All.
>
>
>
> Brian
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> From: Ken Rice <krice@rmktek.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle
> FAX of SIP T.38
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> Handytones... They are cheap and reliable
>
>
>
> From: Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
> Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of
> SIP T.38
>
> Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX
> via
> some type of internal analog adapter. I?ll be installing Switchvox SMB
> and
> will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
>
> Can anyone recommend a ?proven? adapter that can handle this need?
>
> Thanks All.
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

Handytones... They are cheap and reliable



From: Brian Franklin <bfranklin@ntginc.net>
Reply-To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:24 -0500
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX via some type of internal analog adapter.  I’ll be installing Switchvox SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.
 
Can anyone recommend a ‘proven’ adapter that can handle this need?
 
Thanks All.
 
Brian


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[asterisk-biz] Good, Reliable ATA Adapter That Can Handle FAX of SIP T.38

Client has several fax machines that currently connect to the Mitel PBX via some type of internal analog adapter.  I’ll be installing Switchvox SMB and will need a good adapter that can handle T.38/FAX over SIP.

 

Can anyone recommend a ‘proven’ adapter that can handle this need?

 

Thanks All.

 

Brian

Re: [asterisk-biz] Suggested MRC for 100 seat call center in US

I would charge them for the virtual SIP trunks/ports (no incoming call charge),  + outbound minutes (where outbound uses ports) and a flat rate per month per seat...  That way if they have to add more agents they have to buck up more per month for the lines and the software (aka seats)..

A common scenario is to sell them bundles of the seats in say 25 increments..  You want them to overbuy...

Just my 2 cents..

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Wes Reece <wreece79@gmail.com> wrote:
Just trying to get a general consensus here. I am bidding on a contract for a 100 seat call center located in the US. The contract is only for PBX service, inbound and outbound. Aside from the per minute charges, what do you suggest would be a good MRC for the pbx features and maintenance? How are others charging? Flat rate? Monthly fee per extension? Your insight would be of great help.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Dear Zeeshan,

If you want 1 way service you can get it on didx.net

If you want 2 way, you can get it on super-phone.com

Rehan



>
> Hi,
>
> I need a good USA virtual PRIs provider, who can also offer USA DIDs. Preferably IAX trunking
> and g711.
>
> Those of you who have experience with good providers, your advise will be highly appreciated.
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>



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[asterisk-biz] Suggested MRC for 100 seat call center in US

Just trying to get a general consensus here. I am bidding on a contract for a 100 seat call center located in the US. The contract is only for PBX service, inbound and outbound. Aside from the per minute charges, what do you suggest would be a good MRC for the pbx features and maintenance? How are others charging? Flat rate? Monthly fee per extension? Your insight would be of great help.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

On 1/09/09 4:55 AM, Alex Balashov wrote:
> Trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
>> didnt they allow the separation of media and signaling in later
>> versions? Of course this would mean that you are at the whim of the
>> users version of iax if they did, and if the user restricts the ability
> I haven't heard anything about that.

Yep, you can do media only transfer of IAX2 as well as the standard
"entire transfer".

It was added in a version of 1.4, but you'll need to be talking to other
1.4 boxes.

IIRC the option is transfer=mediaonly or some such.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

There is, I think, a difference between vendors that just happen to offer IAX trunks alongside their SIP mainstay, and vendors that specialize in IAX.  I think that's what I was trying to get at.

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On Aug 31, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Alex for your kind inputs resulting in a very informative discussion. I was almost going to abandon all my years old IAX trunks. I'll certainly consider your recommendation.

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

> Alex, you definately need new reading glasses. My question was "I need a
> good USA virtual PRIs provider, who can also offer USA DIDs. Preferably
> IAX trunking and g711".
>
> If you couldn't answer the question, there was no need to start a "IAX"
> vs "What Alex thinks" debate.

You're absolutely right.

I recommend you go either with Teliax (they have a long track record of
doing IAX) or DIDx.net, which ... has a long track record.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Thanks Alex for your kind inputs resulting in a very informative discussion. I was almost going to abandon all my years old IAX trunks. I'll certainly consider your recommendation.

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

> Alex, you definately need new reading glasses. My question was "I need a
> good USA virtual PRIs provider, who can also offer USA DIDs. Preferably
> IAX trunking and g711".
>
> If you couldn't answer the question, there was no need to start a "IAX"
> vs "What Alex thinks" debate.

You're absolutely right.

I recommend you go either with Teliax (they have a long track record of
doing IAX) or DIDx.net, which ... has a long track record.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

> Alex, you definately need new reading glasses. My question was "I need a
> good USA virtual PRIs provider, who can also offer USA DIDs. Preferably
> IAX trunking and g711".
>
> If you couldn't answer the question, there was no need to start a "IAX"
> vs "What Alex thinks" debate.

You're absolutely right.

I recommend you go either with Teliax (they have a long track record of
doing IAX) or DIDx.net, which ... has a long track record.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Geoff, good that you also support SIP otherwise you wouldn't be considered a "good provider" by some on this thread.

I'll contact you separately.

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Geoff Love <glove@teliax.com> wrote:
Teliax can help. We offer SIP and IAX and we also have US DID's. We can provide T-1 services in many areas of the country. One solution is our point to point T-1 that goes from your location to our data center in Denver.

Teliax is a "good provider" and we work closely with several of the experts on this forum.

https://teliax.com/?referral_code=11

My contact information is:

Geoff Love
303-629-8304

Please let me know how we can help with this or any other application. Anything from residential to wholesale applications.

Thanks,

Geoff




On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com> wrote:
Alex, rethink your statement "IAX is incompatible with the requirement that the provider be "good."". Just because you think something else doesn't make IAX providers "not good".

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On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
IAX isn't really a serious origination handoff mechanism, and as such,
is incompatible with the requirement that the provider be "good."

Zeeshan Zakaria wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I need a good USA virtual PRIs provider, who can also offer USA DIDs.
> Preferably IAX trunking and g711.
>
> Those of you who have experience with good providers, your advise will
> be highly appreciated.
>
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>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Michael Schwartzman, thanks jumping in and also for being so polite. BTW I didn't ask any quastions, or did I?

It is unbelievable how much people are against the native protocol of the technology on which forum they are, and don't want others to use it.

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On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Michael Schwartzman <carrierroutes@gmail.com> wrote:
Zeeshan,
If you have made your choice WTF you asking us a quastions here???

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria <zishanov@gmail.com> wrote:
Alex, you have a habit of objecting on what people write in their emails. I knew even before sending my email to this list that you'll find something unnecessary to say on my email. I you have objection with IAX or IAX providers, keep it to yourself. There is no reason to make fun of them or those who want to get their service from them. I prefer IAX, it is my personal choice, doesn't matter what you think, believe or know.

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