Re: [asterisk-biz] Need USA virtual PRIs for www.VisionVoIP.com

Lol, funny. This is the question I was asking. But you went to talk
about the moon lol. So to the best of your knowledge it is a fact.
Thats what you were suppose to answer since the beginning. And thanks
for letting me know about the iax design that is wrong, even when this
was not my question, maybe a good way for you to start so you can get
to your conclusion, but this does not back up your conclusion since
SIP is not perfect itself, they are both getting improved still today.
I am not saying what you are saying is wrong but your intro was
useless. And we all know SIP is the most supported and most used for
obvious reason. And we all know IAX is mostly used by people in the
Asterisk world for obvious reason too. You know what IAX stands for.
And also in the guys question there was a keyword you missed probably,
he said PREFERABLY IAX, lol the way you talk makes me think you have
some personal problem with asterisk or maybe digium?

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On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Alex Balashov
<abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:

> Pascal Bruno wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Alex Balashov
>> <abalashov@evaristesys.com <mailto:abalashov@evaristesys.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Pascal Bruno wrote:
>>
>>> Is this a fact or your personal opinion? Did you ask most large-
>>> scale
>>> providers what they are using and they reply everything but
>>> asterisk?
>>> How do you know?
>>
>> Oh - a strong empiricist. Charming.
>>
>> Did you go to the Moon and check if it actually has craters?
>>
>>
>> I did not, but I have seen pictures from NASA and reports of studies
>> they made, so they actually have some facts and things to back it
>> up and
>> that was not personal opinion, so that's exactly what I was asking if
>> what you are saying is personal opinion or you have some facts. No
>> need
>> to feel offended here.
>
> Indeed. In addition to having no support among manufacturers of VoIP
> network elements used in service delivery platforms of nontrivial size
> (I am not referring to phones or ATAs), IAX has a fundamental design
> flaw that makes it unworkable for large amounts of traffic.
>
> Its principal issue is that precisely because of that aspect of
> which is
> touted most - that it mixes the signaling and bearer plane into one
> packet stream - it cannot be used in larger, more decoupled assemblies
> of numerous media gateways controlled by one peripheral signaling
> agent.
>
> No, I don't have any direct quotations from Level3, Global Crossing,
> XO,
> or a handful of smaller vendors that the rest of these ITSPs are
> reselling in some shape or form saying that they don't do IAX handoff.
> However, my main line of work is in service delivery platform
> engineering and scalable architecture, and I work with actual
> carriers a
> fair bit.
>
> Like you, I can make some conclusions from my experience and knowledge
> that has crystallised, and refer to it on the basis of inductive
> claims.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, it is a fact that nobody outside the
> Asterisk cottage industry gives a hoot about IAX.
>
> --
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> Evariste Systems
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