Re: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider Matrix of rates/services

Actually in the countries I work in (we have servers in 3 countries,
including the one you mention) the norm is 8ms - 20ms. However
we do have customers farther away and they go up to 200 and sometimes
even more.
All I am saying is that latency is only one factor, and there are others
such as packet loss, jitter etc.

Not to mention termination where results can be all over the ballpark no
matter how close "your provider" is to you...

Nitzan Kon wrote:
> In your country, the current norm is probably around 200 ms. But since
> that is the case, I imagine ISPs are more dedicated to eliminating lost
> packets, etc. so the service does not suffer except for (very) slight
> delays. Last time I spoke to my father (same country) via VoIP, he
> couldn't notice a delay at all on his side. I noticed it, but it wasn't
> significant.
>
> In the US though- service from a 200 ms provider, or a 40 ms provider,
> makes a HUGE difference in voice quality, in my experience.
>
> -- Nitzan
>
> --- Moshe Maeir <m345@netvision.net.il> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Dave,
> I can comment on 100ms delay remark, that it is not always true. Wehave
> call center customers who have 180 - 220ms and are happy.
> There are other factors besides latency which can effect quality, so
> Ido not completely agree with your comment
>
> Moshe
>
> dave cantera wrote: moshe, nitzan,
> I already compiled a list from website info... not totally
> completethough. all public info w/o calls to providers...
>
> really, I wanted the providers to update the matrix themselves over
> theweb so they could control the information.. the biggest reason I
> don'tthink they should have a problem with it is they all don't cover
> theentire world or the US either. some servers have too much delay,
> over100ms, so any customers they have outside their 'local network
> area'would get poor service and they shouldn't want to waste their time
> ifthey can't provide the service to those customers... knowing that
> infotidbit saves face and bad will... helps the community too!
>
> any additional thoughts?
> daveC
>
>
>
> Moshe Maeir wrote:
> The best would be in the spirit of web 2.0 - a list of providers,
> which would have data, that partially be filled in by the
> companies(like voip-info has), but also have an active user rating
> system.Nitzan Kon wrote:
>
> It is a good idea, and I would love to have a list of
> wholesaleproviders readily available so I can pick and choose the ones
> I likemost according to price & support criteria.The problems with this
> are, well, half the providers I've contacted inthe past request that
> you sign a non-disclosure agreement, and theother half act like their
> rates a big secret, and only disclose themupon request. I think this
> has a lot to do with providers being worriedabout competition, but in
> the end if you provide overpriced servicewith bad quality/support
> customers WILL find someone better whether youpublish your rates or
> not.You could always start a matrix by yourself... the only problem
> withthis is that you won't be able to publish providers who require
> anon-disclosure agreement. But then again- 9 times out of 10 those
> arebad quality and overpriced. I would avoid those anyway despite
> any(false) promises they might make. -- Nitzan--- dave cantera
> <david.cantera@iacnet.net> wrote:---------------------------------
> hi,I see frequent questions on the list for voip providers. would
> itbehelpful to have a voip provider matrix of services? would the voip
> providers on the list support
> it?daveC_______________________________________________--Bandwidth and
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