Re: [asterisk-biz] on the topic of fraud

I don't know what to tell you, but you can't close down a data center
for the purpose of collecting evidence. How hard is it to just clone
all the machines in there instead of taking them?
I have been by one such raid, they just close you down. Luckily the
place where I was happened on a Monday morning, on the Friday before
that they asked me how important it is to take the backup tapes off
site. I told them very. When I was called on Monday morning the first
thing I asked was if he had taken the tapes, when the answer was yes I
told him go home, I'm assuming they'll be done late afternoon you'll
have your network up and running tomorrow morning.
They left around 2PM, I ran to the wiz (remember them?) and bought
computers to replace the ones they took (4 in total) and he was up and
running around 11AM Tuesday.
My point, this was a small company with around 10 employees shut down
by an investigation. It turns out he was in the clear, but regardless
I don't see this justified when it can all be done with just cloning
the whole office instead of taking it away.

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:14 PM, ContactTel Business
<lists@contacttel.com> wrote:
> Faulkner should rot in jail.. as for the way they (the fbi) handled things,
> it seems they had no choice, and i bet that credit card company was
> faulkners, and he was about to rip poor people's cards off..
>
> "
> Personally after the dealings I have had with Mike Faulkner, where be
> defaulted on $70k of long distance traffic with us under Union Datacom, and
> then tried to open a new account three days later under Premier. When we
> were doing our credit verifications and he answered the phone, he said "oh
> well I guess you caught me". He has burnt more VOIP companies then anyone I
> know"
>
> Nuf said.. this guy is guilty, of defrauding companies.. what's is kids
> doing with 3 xboxes anyhow ? 8 ipods ?
>
> Let build something for that and who cares on stupid defamatory laws.. let's
> host a list on a panama box and lets us all have access to it to protects
> ourselves from repeat fraudsters.
>
> PS lets just hope we don't have the same hosting as he does lol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>-----Original Message-----
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>>>bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Trixter aka Bret McDanel
>>>Sent: May-16-09 8:22 PM
>>>To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
>>>Subject: [asterisk-biz] on the topic of fraud
>>>
>>>http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/data-centers-ra/
>>>
>>>Basically people forged credit references to get credit for telephone
>>>service then did not pay the bills. because it is in essence credit
>>>extended to the companies, it qualifies as criminal fraud if you make
>>>misleading or fradulent statements, and that is how the FBI got
>>>involved, that and there are big companies pushing them, if it was a
>>>small provider who made the same claim they would surely push it off
>>>saying "take it to civil court".
>>>
>>>
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>>>Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel
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