Sunday, August 31, 2008

Re: [asterisk-biz] New Zealand Mobiles, Australia Mob and Cambodia routes available

Hi Kevin

What is ASR: 64% ??

Regards

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Kavin <sales01.beyond@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi we have following routes to offers on prepayment terms, if any one
interested, please let us know off the list to sales01.beyond@gmail.com.

New Zealand Mobile: 0.155 (ASR: 64% )
Australia Mobile:        0.089 (ASR: 54% , ACD: 7 minutes)
Cambodia        :         0.054  (ASR 52% , ACD 8 Minutes)
Bangladesh Cell (CLI ) 0.031 (To be rated yet)
 All 1/1 billing.

-Kevin

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Comments Required on asterisk2billing 120 concurrent calls limits!!

On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 04:01 -0400, Alex Balashov wrote:
> Comments *required*?
>
> Seriously?
>

from his/her/its/their perspective I am sure they are required :)

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Comments Required on asterisk2billing 120 concurrent calls limits!!

Comments *required*?

Seriously?

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Saturday, August 30, 2008

Re: [asterisk-biz] India TRAI Press Release legalizing VOIP

Problem is the process will be a bit slow and isp's will try to get
lot of profit in start . Most people will need ISP license to start
termination and getting it is not easy unless you do lot of
investment .

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Benjamin Jacob <ben4asterisk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes indeed!!
> This is some really fabulous but much-needed and quite-delayed news from India.
> With a market as huge as India, to say that there will be multitude of tremendous opportunities is an understatement.
> More than the cities, it is the rural sector where there is the volume.
>
> What remains to be seen how the government actually follows this up with action, smooth processes, minimum interference, minimum red tape and the works.
>
> The second interesting thing I would like to start a thread on is, how can small to medium players (re-)invent themselves and provide services which can withstand the strategies and might of the big players, such as existing ISPs and others.
>
> cheers for a VoIP-ed India.
>
> - Ben.
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Michael S. White <mwhite@e4strategies.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Michael S. White <mwhite@e4strategies.com>
>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] India TRAI Press Release legalizing VOIP
>> To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
>> Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 5:43 AM
>> WOW!
>>
>> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/India+TRAI+Press+Release+legalizing+VOIP
>>
>> Michael S. White
>> .e4 | 877-4E4-VoIP | 231-668-4285 DID |
>> <mailto:%20mwhite@e4strategies.com>
>> mwhite@e4strategies.com
>> Positioned at the Intersection of Business and Strategy
>> <http://www.8774e4voip.com/> www.8774e4VoIP.com
>> <http://www.e4voip.com/> www.e4voip.com
>>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Comments Required on asterisk2billing 120 concurrent calls limits!!

Hi Stephen!

Thanks for your comments and updates!
Can any one refer me good document or a case study; How to attached multiple asterisk server with a single a2billing engine for scalability of this solution ?

Thanks
Regards
Zulqarnain



--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Stephen Davies <stephen.l.davies@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Stephen Davies <stephen.l.davies@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Comments Required on asterisk2billing 120 concurrent calls limits!!
To: mzulqarnain2002@yahoo.com, "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 2:45 AM



2008/8/28 Muhammad Zulqarnain <mzulqarnain2002@yahoo.com>
I would like to implement a2billing for calling card business. I would like to know the concurrent call limitation by asterisk2billing that is 120?


Pretty sure that's not a limitation - its just a number.

100-ish concurrent calls is a very comfortable figure to use as a capacity for a single Asterisk box.  So that's probably where the number comes from.

But once calls are established, A2Billing calls are just like any other Asterisk call.  So if your platform can do 300 to 400 calls then so will A2B.

The number of calls Asterisk will do depends on lots of factors - transcoding is a biggie.

Steve


Re: [asterisk-biz] India TRAI Press Release legalizing VOIP

Yes indeed!!
This is some really fabulous but much-needed and quite-delayed news from India.
With a market as huge as India, to say that there will be multitude of tremendous opportunities is an understatement.
More than the cities, it is the rural sector where there is the volume.

What remains to be seen how the government actually follows this up with action, smooth processes, minimum interference, minimum red tape and the works.

The second interesting thing I would like to start a thread on is, how can small to medium players (re-)invent themselves and provide services which can withstand the strategies and might of the big players, such as existing ISPs and others.

cheers for a VoIP-ed India.

- Ben.

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Michael S. White <mwhite@e4strategies.com> wrote:

> From: Michael S. White <mwhite@e4strategies.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] India TRAI Press Release legalizing VOIP
> To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 5:43 AM
> WOW!
>
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/India+TRAI+Press+Release+legalizing+VOIP
>
> Michael S. White
> .e4 | 877-4E4-VoIP | 231-668-4285 DID |
> <mailto:%20mwhite@e4strategies.com>
> mwhite@e4strategies.com
> Positioned at the Intersection of Business and Strategy
> <http://www.8774e4voip.com/> www.8774e4VoIP.com
> <http://www.e4voip.com/> www.e4voip.com
>
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Friday, August 29, 2008

[asterisk-biz] India TRAI Press Release legalizing VOIP

WOW!
 
 
 Michael S. White
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Positioned at the Intersection of Business and Strategy

 
 

Re: [asterisk-biz] Residential VoIP Stats

SteveT, got some advice?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: | dave cantera | <david.cantera@iacnet.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:33:44 -0400
To: <mroberts1818@gmail.com>; Commercial and Business-Oriented AsteriskDiscussion<asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
CC: <david.cantera@IBSOneCall.com>; <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Residential VoIP Stats

mike,
that would be the erlang   formula...    you still end up with the ratio though...   oops, a quick google reminds me that erlang is for call centers...  wonder if you could use it for voip providers... steveT, you would know...
daveC

FORMULA TO CALCULATE PHONE LINES NEEDED

What is the formula for calculating the number of lines for an inbound call center if we have the BHCA (Busy Hour Calls Average) and QOS (Quality of Service or Service Level)? Online calculators give the answer but not the formula. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. -- Sameer Maini, Target Corporation
----------------------------------------------------

Calculate Call Center Staffing with Excel

By Joannès Vermorel, May 2008

This guide explains how to optimize the number of agents to reach the desired service level. This guide applies to call centers and contact centers. The theory is illustrated with Microsoft Excel. Advanced notes are available for software developer who would like to reproduce the theory into a custom application.

Download: (Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet)

When opening the spreadsheet, Excel will warn you than this document contains macros. Those macros correspond to the Erlang-C formula (see explanation below). You need to activate the macros in order to reproduce the calculations.




mroberts1818@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks,  What about avg per min per month usage per household?  ------Original Message------ From: | dave cantera | To: mroberts1818@gmail.com To: Commercial and Business-Oriented AsteriskDiscussion ReplyTo: david.cantera@IBSOneCall.com Sent: Aug 27, 2008 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Residential VoIP Stats  mike,  typically, one might have a 6 to 1, 10 to 1, or in vonage's case (I think) 15+ to 1 ratio of customers to lines.  the more customers the higher the ratio, of course.    there is an erlang formula (spelling) that the telcos use but it still comes down to...   'all lines are busy, please try your call later'...   how many times do you want a customer want to hear that msg.  daveC    mroberts1818@gmail.com <mailto:mroberts1818@gmail.com>  wrote: Hi list, Anyone know where I can find some statistics on residential calling patterns? I.e. Total number of minutes called per month Time of day patterns (probably pretty obvious but curious) Etc. Many thanks. -Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com <http://www.api-digital.com> -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net <http://www.astricon.net> asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz <http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz>   -- My wife's sister is in California. I should buy her a Videophone2008! Truly, The Next Best Thing to Being There! -- Interlocking Business Solutions, LLC 856.380.0894   Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--  AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net  asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:    http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz     

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Open letter to digium, asterisk developers and consultants

On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:25 -0700, John Todd wrote:
> >On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 13:21 -0400, David Boyd wrote:
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> Are there any updates to this thread. I have not seen any further
> >> response from Digium, in the last 45- 50 days, and therefore am
> >> wondering if there will be any additional response.
> >
> Sorry for the delay on this; we actually had the revisions done with
> decent speed (a few days) but the comments phase got drawn out longer
> than I had hoped.


its been a month, any updates on this? Or did I miss them? Granted
this is going back to early June, but meh :)
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Comments Required on asterisk2billing 120 concurrent calls limits!!



2008/8/28 Muhammad Zulqarnain <mzulqarnain2002@yahoo.com>
I would like to implement a2billing for calling card business. I would like to know the concurrent call limitation by asterisk2billing that is 120?


Pretty sure that's not a limitation - its just a number.

100-ish concurrent calls is a very comfortable figure to use as a capacity for a single Asterisk box.  So that's probably where the number comes from.

But once calls are established, A2Billing calls are just like any other Asterisk call.  So if your platform can do 300 to 400 calls then so will A2B.

The number of calls Asterisk will do depends on lots of factors - transcoding is a biggie.

Steve

Re: [asterisk-biz] Residential VoIP Stats

mike,
that would be the erlang   formula...    you still end up with the ratio though...   oops, a quick google reminds me that erlang is for call centers...  wonder if you could use it for voip providers... steveT, you would know...
daveC

FORMULA TO CALCULATE PHONE LINES NEEDED

What is the formula for calculating the number of lines for an inbound call center if we have the BHCA (Busy Hour Calls Average) and QOS (Quality of Service or Service Level)? Online calculators give the answer but not the formula. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. -- Sameer Maini, Target Corporation
----------------------------------------------------

Calculate Call Center Staffing with Excel

By Joannès Vermorel, May 2008

This guide explains how to optimize the number of agents to reach the desired service level. This guide applies to call centers and contact centers. The theory is illustrated with Microsoft Excel. Advanced notes are available for software developer who would like to reproduce the theory into a custom application.

Download: (Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet)

When opening the spreadsheet, Excel will warn you than this document contains macros. Those macros correspond to the Erlang-C formula (see explanation below). You need to activate the macros in order to reproduce the calculations.




mroberts1818@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks,  What about avg per min per month usage per household?  ------Original Message------ From: | dave cantera | To: mroberts1818@gmail.com To: Commercial and Business-Oriented AsteriskDiscussion ReplyTo: david.cantera@IBSOneCall.com Sent: Aug 27, 2008 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Residential VoIP Stats  mike,  typically, one might have a 6 to 1, 10 to 1, or in vonage's case (I think) 15+ to 1 ratio of customers to lines.  the more customers the higher the ratio, of course.    there is an erlang formula (spelling) that the telcos use but it still comes down to...   'all lines are busy, please try your call later'...   how many times do you want a customer want to hear that msg.  daveC    mroberts1818@gmail.com <mailto:mroberts1818@gmail.com>  wrote: Hi list, Anyone know where I can find some statistics on residential calling patterns? I.e. Total number of minutes called per month Time of day patterns (probably pretty obvious but curious) Etc. Many thanks. -Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com <http://www.api-digital.com> -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net <http://www.astricon.net> asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz <http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz>   -- My wife's sister is in California. I should buy her a Videophone2008! Truly, The Next Best Thing to Being There! -- Interlocking Business Solutions, LLC 856.380.0894   Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--  AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net  asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:    http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz     

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[asterisk-biz] not quite asterisk, but an interesting quote none the less...


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Thursday, August 28, 2008

Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

>>>Dean - your points about attitude and marketing are well taken. Despite
that...

Yes, I agree with this comment too.

C. Savinovich

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bill Michaelson
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:18 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

Alex Balashov wrote:
Reading between the lines of this prospective customer's "functional spec",
I sensed a belief on his part that the project was trivial, or more
specifically, wishful thinking to that effect. Maybe I misjudged him, but
you might have noticed that I attempted to draw this prospect out by
suggesting what unconsidered complexity might be lurking, and to gauge his
grasp of the problem as well as mine - similar to what you suggested ought
be done. I was ignored. Another consultant, perhaps more of a gambler,
took another tack by simply declaring a number and a timeframe. He was
practically ridiculed. What does that tell you?

Some prospects can't be reached, or if they can be, one does so at one's own
peril. And this forum serves as a sanity check for me, so I appreciate the
other comments.


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Alex Balashov wrote:
C. Savinovich wrote:    
Dean, isn't it true that as consultant, you just have to know when it is worth trying to convince your customer, and other times you are just better off not wasting one more minute of your time, and just walking away wishing him all the luck in the world with his "do-it-in-one-day" contractor.  One thing is that the prospective customer is not sure about what decision to take, and another totally different one is that he thinks that a 15 days job can be done in 1 day. My take is that such customer is nowhere close to convincing.     
 My sentiments precisely.    
Dean - your points about attitude and marketing are well taken. Despite that...

Reading between the lines of this prospective customer's "functional spec", I sensed a belief on his part that the project was trivial, or more specifically, wishful thinking to that effect.  Maybe I misjudged him, but you might have noticed that I attempted to draw this prospect out by suggesting what unconsidered complexity might be lurking, and to gauge his grasp of the problem as well as mine - similar to what you suggested ought be done.  I was ignored.  Another consultant, perhaps more of a gambler, took another tack by simply declaring a number and a timeframe.  He was practically ridiculed.  What does that tell you?

Some prospects can't be reached, or if they can be, one does so at one's own peril.  And this forum serves as a sanity check for me, so I appreciate the other comments.



Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

C. Savinovich wrote:

> Dean, isn't it true that as consultant, you just have to know when it is
> worth trying to convince your customer, and other times you are just better
> off not wasting one more minute of your time, and just walking away wishing
> him all the luck in the world with his "do-it-in-one-day" contractor.
>
> One thing is that the prospective customer is not sure about what decision
> to take, and another totally different one is that he thinks that a 15 days
> job can be done in 1 day. My take is that such customer is nowhere close to
> convincing.

My sentiments precisely.

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Dean, isn't it true that as consultant, you just have to know when it is
worth trying to convince your customer, and other times you are just better
off not wasting one more minute of your time, and just walking away wishing
him all the luck in the world with his "do-it-in-one-day" contractor.

One thing is that the prospective customer is not sure about what decision
to take, and another totally different one is that he thinks that a 15 days
job can be done in 1 day. My take is that such customer is nowhere close to
convincing.

CS


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:28 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

Those 'inept' business types are your customers....

When I get a customer who doesn't understand why he should be paying me
a certain rate etc, I take the time to document the advantages, to show
and demonstrate the superior skills I deliver, I make sure that he
understand that I value his commitment and expenditure in hiring me for
a project instead of someone else.

I don't call him 'inept' and blame the customer.


Maybe you should start by looking at yourself and your own marketing
techniques first.


Cheers,

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Alex
Balashov
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 5:11 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

C. Savinovich wrote:
> >>>I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this
job
> done for me in matter of one day ;-)
>
> Done in one day???... you know, if the man was a carpenter, and he
had
> to built your kitchen cabinets in three days, you will probably will
not
> hesitate to pay him 10 thousand dollars. But either you don't know
all
> the work he has to go through, or you just think that coding work is
> nowadays the same as third world slavery work.

It is a prevailing view among many inept business types that programming

is a fancy form of typing.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

I can hardly be moved to argue that good marketing and transparent
justification is often essential.

But it's not worth the time to work with clients to whom programming has
to be justified as a legitimate field of skilled, intellectual human
endeavour from the ground up, arguing every step of the way.

Programming is not just typing, and if you want it done more or less
from scratch and done right, you have to pay serious money and give
serious time.


Dean Collins wrote:

> Those 'inept' business types are your customers....
>
> When I get a customer who doesn't understand why he should be paying me
> a certain rate etc, I take the time to document the advantages, to show
> and demonstrate the superior skills I deliver, I make sure that he
> understand that I value his commitment and expenditure in hiring me for
> a project instead of someone else.
>
> I don't call him 'inept' and blame the customer.
>
> Maybe you should start by looking at yourself and your own marketing
> techniques first.

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Those 'inept' business types are your customers....

When I get a customer who doesn't understand why he should be paying me
a certain rate etc, I take the time to document the advantages, to show
and demonstrate the superior skills I deliver, I make sure that he
understand that I value his commitment and expenditure in hiring me for
a project instead of someone else.

I don't call him 'inept' and blame the customer.


Maybe you should start by looking at yourself and your own marketing
techniques first.


Cheers,

Dean

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Balashov
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 5:11 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

C. Savinovich wrote:
> >>>I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this
job
> done for me in matter of one day ;-)
>
> Done in one day???... you know, if the man was a carpenter, and he
had
> to built your kitchen cabinets in three days, you will probably will
not
> hesitate to pay him 10 thousand dollars. But either you don't know
all
> the work he has to go through, or you just think that coding work is
> nowadays the same as third world slavery work.

It is a prevailing view among many inept business types that programming

is a fancy form of typing.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

1/ a carpenter cant build a kitchen from scratch in 3 days.

 

2/ he can ‘assemble’ a kitchen in a day but that would involve 60-70% of the $10,000 being for the pre-finished cabinetry.

 

As you are a coder and not providing ‘pre-finished code’, make up your mind and make a decision as to which side of the argument you want to be on.

 

 

 


Cheers,

Dean


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Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 5:02 PM
To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

 

>>>I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this job done for me in matter of one day ;-)

  Done in one day???... you know, if the man was a carpenter, and he had to built your kitchen cabinets in three days, you will probably will not hesitate to pay him 10 thousand dollars.  But either you don’t know all the work he has to go through, or you just think that coding work is nowadays the same as third world slavery work.  

 

 CS

 

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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:18 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

 

I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this job done for me in matter of one day ;-)

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:

Shahid wrote:

> My bid for the job is $1500 and it'll take about 2 1/2 weeks to
> complete.

Are you located outside Europe or US/Canada?

-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

C. Savinovich wrote:
> >>>I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this job
> done for me in matter of one day ;-)
>
> Done in one day???... you know, if the man was a carpenter, and he had
> to built your kitchen cabinets in three days, you will probably will not
> hesitate to pay him 10 thousand dollars. But either you don't know all
> the work he has to go through, or you just think that coding work is
> nowadays the same as third world slavery work.

It is a prevailing view among many inept business types that programming
is a fancy form of typing.

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>>>I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this job done for me in matter of one day ;-)

  Done in one day???... you know, if the man was a carpenter, and he had to built your kitchen cabinets in three days, you will probably will not hesitate to pay him 10 thousand dollars.  But either you don’t know all the work he has to go through, or you just think that coding work is nowadays the same as third world slavery work.  

 

 CS

 

From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of VIP Carrier
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:18 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

 

I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this job done for me in matter of one day ;-)

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:

Shahid wrote:

> My bid for the job is $1500 and it'll take about 2 1/2 weeks to
> complete.

Are you located outside Europe or US/Canada?

-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

This project is not of a scope that allows it to be done in one day.
Not if it's done right. You've got to be kidding yourself.

VIP Carrier wrote:

> I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this job
> done for me in matter of one day ;-)


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I can get for same price programmer here in New York to get this job done for me in matter of one day ;-)

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com> wrote:
Shahid wrote:

> My bid for the job is $1500 and it'll take about 2 1/2 weeks to
> complete.

Are you located outside Europe or US/Canada?

-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Phone Provisioning PHP Script

vip,
it is unlikely that you will find anyone willing to undertake this task.  I have  preliminary designs on such a beast...  why are you going this route rather than tftp/http or bootp?  enlighten us :)
daveC



VIP Carrier wrote:
Any one???

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM, VIP Carrier <vipcarrier@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does any wants to write/sell me a Phone Provisioning Script?

I have following requirements.
1. Support of the following phones Cisco, Polycom, Aastra and Linksys.
2. Create/edit/delete a config files in to /tftpboot from web GUI.

Thats it.

It is urgent.


 
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Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

Shahid wrote:

> My bid for the job is $1500 and it'll take about 2 1/2 weeks to
> complete.

Are you located outside Europe or US/Canada?

-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

Hi,
 
I believe I have the skill and experience to do the job.
 
Please take a look at my linkedin profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/shady
 
My bid for the job is $1500 and it'll take about 2 1/2 weeks to complete. You will have to provide the compilers for the respective brands. You can get the compilers from the vendors.
 
Best,
Shahid


 
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 6:07 PM, VIP Carrier <vipcarrier@gmail.com> wrote:
This is very simple project for a good PHP programer who knows a bit about XML.
As you know every IP phone can be configured with TFTP server if there is a configs for this phone exist. so my project is to get this tftp server.

1. TFTP Server
2. Web GUI to manage phones auto provisioning. (internal use)
3. The phones that will be used with this TFTP are the following:

* Aastra 57i CT
* Cisco 7940, 7960, 7970 and 7971
* Polycom 330, 550, 560, 650, 6000 and 7000

This is phone models we are supporting.
here is how GUI should be functional

We login to portal

* user name
* password

then we have an option to browser phones by MAC address or by Client Name (company name) only for internal use.

Add a phone option:

* Select a brand name of the phone
* Select a model
* Enter a MAC address of the phone.
* Enter SIP user name
* Enter SIP user password
* Enter SIP URL
* Click on generate a config file.

after that phone will be connecting to TFTP server and downloading an information related to the MAC address.

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

I've had good success with LES.net

Check them out here:
http://les.net

Bob


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> Hello all!
>
> Anybody on here offers wholesale Canada LNP and DIDs (or knows
> of a company that does)?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Phone Provisioning PHP Script


On Aug 28, 2008, at 9:02 AM, VIP Carrier wrote:

Any one???

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM, VIP Carrier <vipcarrier@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does any wants to write/sell me a Phone Provisioning Script?

I have following requirements.
1. Support of the following phones Cisco, Polycom, Aastra and Linksys.
2. Create/edit/delete a config files in to /tftpboot from web GUI.

Thats it.

It is urgent.

I can't comment on your need for it to be php, but take a look at sipxconfig.  It should be able to be used stand alone separate from the rest of sipxecs to just configure phones.

Mike

Re: [asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

What about the ancillary configuration options - which can number in the
hundreds - some of which are required for real functionality in most
circumstances (server address comes to mind as important; phone display
label would be nice)? There seems little point in doing this unless you
can generate configurations with all that stuff. And wouldn't you want
the configuration data to be shared/exported/transmogrified
appropriately for the complementary network/PBX that the phones would be
attached to/used with?

The concept is simple, but the implementation is not, and could go on
forever. So how does the service you are seeking fit into your plans?
Are you looking for some model code to serve as a basis for your future
development?


VIP Carrier wrote:
> This is very simple project for a good PHP programer who knows a bit
> about XML.
> As you know every IP phone can be configured with TFTP server if there
> is a configs for this phone exist. so my project is to get this tftp
> server.
>
> 1. TFTP Server
> 2. Web GUI to manage phones auto provisioning. (internal use)
> 3. The phones that will be used with this TFTP are the following:
>
> * Aastra 57i CT
> * Cisco 7940, 7960, 7970 and 7971
> * Polycom 330, 550, 560, 650, 6000 and 7000
>
> This is phone models we are supporting.
> here is how GUI should be functional
>
> We login to portal
>
> * user name
> * password
>
> then we have an option to browser phones by MAC address or by Client
> Name (company name) only for internal use.
>
> Add a phone option:
>
> * Select a brand name of the phone
> * Select a model
> * Enter a MAC address of the phone.
> * Enter SIP user name
> * Enter SIP user password
> * Enter SIP URL
> * Click on generate a config file.
>
> after that phone will be connecting to TFTP server and downloading an
> information related to the MAC address.
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Reliable Voip Provider in BC, Canada

Unlimitel.ca

Best regards,

Chris Hariga

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Hi,

We are looking for a reliable voip provider to connect our in-office
Asterisk box with the outside world. For starters we'd need couple of
outbound SIP trunks for testing purposes. Does anyone have any
recommendations/experience with voip provider in Canada?

Thanks!

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[asterisk-biz] TFTP Boot Server

This is very simple project for a good PHP programer who knows a bit about XML.
As you know every IP phone can be configured with TFTP server if there is a configs for this phone exist. so my project is to get this tftp server.

1. TFTP Server
2. Web GUI to manage phones auto provisioning. (internal use)
3. The phones that will be used with this TFTP are the following:

* Aastra 57i CT
* Cisco 7940, 7960, 7970 and 7971
* Polycom 330, 550, 560, 650, 6000 and 7000

This is phone models we are supporting.
here is how GUI should be functional

We login to portal

* user name
* password

then we have an option to browser phones by MAC address or by Client Name (company name) only for internal use.

Add a phone option:

* Select a brand name of the phone
* Select a model
* Enter a MAC address of the phone.
* Enter SIP user name
* Enter SIP user password
* Enter SIP URL
* Click on generate a config file.

after that phone will be connecting to TFTP server and downloading an information related to the MAC address.

Re: [asterisk-biz] Phone Provisioning PHP Script

Any one???

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:15 PM, VIP Carrier <vipcarrier@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does any wants to write/sell me a Phone Provisioning Script?

I have following requirements.
1. Support of the following phones Cisco, Polycom, Aastra and Linksys.
2. Create/edit/delete a config files in to /tftpboot from web GUI.

Thats it.

It is urgent.


[asterisk-biz] Comments Required on asterisk2billing 120 concurrent calls limits!!

Hi!

I would like to implement a2billing for calling card business. I would like to know the concurrent call limitation by asterisk2billing that is 120?

I believe that a single asterisk box can handle 8 E1 TDM Calls or 300 to 500 SIP calls easily on a good Xeon server with 2 to 4 gb RAM with g729 codec.

Please comments on following statement given on at http://www.asterisk2billing.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi
See this line
The platform can be fitted with a TDM cards to interconnect with the PSTN, and can support in excess of 120 concurrent calls given the right hardware. If more capacity is required, then more Asterisk servers can be added as necessary.

Also if some one refer to good documentation about how to add multiple asterisk server with a single A2billing engine. Or a case study of deploying a2billing for calling card business with larger call volume.

Your Comments are welcome.

Thanks
With Regards
Muhammad Zulqarnain

Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Re: [asterisk-biz] Looking for a good stateside VoIP provider...

Hello everyone..
 
Since this was a pretty popular post I though I'd write about my experience in selecting our new provider
Teliax.
 
When we started testing with Teliax I was having issues with the service- Having not contacted support
(A common problem amongst know it alls like myself) I figured they were probably out of the running.
 
Deciding to give it one more shot, I posted a message to their forum which was answered within an hour
by David Aldworth. Apparently from what I can gather David is one of, or THE owner of the company.  After
a few email volleys and a phone call (on Sunday even) David had me convinced that the issue was on my
end. And he was right.
 
To make a long story short- Teliax has been working great for us. Our numbers were ported in less than
10 days , their pricing is more than competitive, and the service/support we received has been world class.
 
Thanks David, Ben,Geoff, and everyone who offered comments to my original post.
 
Michael S. White
.e4 | 877-4E4-VoIP | 231-668-4285 DID |
mwhite@e4strategies.com
Positioned at the Intersection of Business and Strategy
 

From:  Michael S. White
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 11:32 AM

We've been looking @ Vitelity and Teliax- can't seem to get teliax working properly with our * boxes so they are probably out.
 
Internally we use...
  • Switchvox
  • Asterisk Business Edition
Factors:
  • Need 10+ Channels
  • Reasonable rates- Not looking for the "Cheapest" necessarily
  • Reliability - Any user stories are appreciated (looking for feedback from actual customers)
  • Good to Great Customer Service (looking for feedback from actual customers)
Lastly - If there are any .e4 resellers out there that are pitching services and can bring a good option to the table we'd gladly become your customer too.
 
 
Michael S. White
.e4 | 877-4E4-VoIP | 231-668-4285 DID |
mwhite@e4strategies.com
Positioned at the Intersection of Business and Strategy
 
PS- Need to start testing ASAP-

 
 

[asterisk-biz] I completely agree.

I completely agree. They provide several DID for myself and my
clients. Excellent service and services.


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> We've used them for many and clients and they are excellent
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>
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>
> Anybody on here offers wholesale Canada LNP and DIDs (or knows
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>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

Check out www.unlimitel.ca

We've used them for many and clients and they are excellent

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Hello all!

Anybody on here offers wholesale Canada LNP and DIDs (or knows
of a company that does)?

Thanks!

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[asterisk-biz] Quote for 2 PRI Loops and Ports

I hope someone on the list can provide me a quote for install and monthly for two local PRI's and port of 714-676 & 714-228 400 DID's
The local number is 714-739-xxxx  in Buena Park, CA 90620
 
Thanks, Bart
 

Re: [asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

We are based in Canada and have DID's from most major cities and can handle
lnp..

www.planettelecom.com
sales@planettelecom.com

Dave Veilleux


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Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

I believe Broadvox does.

Tommy

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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:58 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

Hello all!

Anybody on here offers wholesale Canada LNP and DIDs (or knows of a company
that does)?

Thanks!

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Reliable Voip Provider in BC, Canada

I've got to say that we've been pretty happy with http://www.les.net

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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Igor
Widlinski
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:16 PM
To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Reliable Voip Provider in BC, Canada

Hi,

We are looking for a reliable voip provider to connect our in-office
Asterisk box with the outside world. For starters we'd need couple of
outbound SIP trunks for testing purposes. Does anyone have any
recommendations/experience with voip provider in Canada?

Thanks!

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

I believe Broadvox does.

Tommy

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[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Nitzan Kon
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:58 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

Hello all!

Anybody on here offers wholesale Canada LNP and DIDs (or knows
of a company that does)?

Thanks!

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Future Nine Corporation
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[asterisk-biz] Canada DID origination and LNP.

Hello all!

Anybody on here offers wholesale Canada LNP and DIDs (or knows
of a company that does)?

Thanks!

--
Nitzan Kon, CEO
Future Nine Corporation
www.future-nine.com

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Reliable Voip Provider in BC, Canada

Igor,

Teliax can help connect your Asterisk box to the outside world. We are located in the US but we have plenty of customers in Canada.

https://www.teliax.com/  Take a look at our website and let us know if we can assist you.

Geoff Love





On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Igor Widlinski <igor.widlinski@eigendev.com> wrote:
Hi,

We are looking for a reliable voip provider to connect our in-office
Asterisk box with the outside world. For starters we'd need couple of
outbound SIP trunks for testing purposes. Does anyone have any
recommendations/experience with voip provider in Canada?

Thanks!

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303-629-8304

Re: [asterisk-biz] Reliable Voip Provider in BC, Canada

Hi,

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Asterisk box with the outside world. For starters we'd need couple of
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recommendations/experience with voip provider in Canada?

Thanks!

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Re: [asterisk-biz] Residential VoIP Stats

Thanks,

What about avg per min per month usage per household?

------Original Message------
From: | dave cantera |
To: mroberts1818@gmail.com
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented AsteriskDiscussion
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Sent: Aug 27, 2008 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Residential VoIP Stats

mike,
typically, one might have a 6 to 1, 10 to 1, or in vonage's case (I think) 15+ to 1 ratio of customers to lines.  the more customers the higher the ratio, of course. 
there is an erlang formula (spelling) that the telcos use but it still comes down to...   'all lines are busy, please try your call later'...
how many times do you want a customer want to hear that msg.
daveC

mroberts1818@gmail.com <mailto:mroberts1818@gmail.com> wrote: Hi list, Anyone know where I can find some statistics on residential calling patterns? I.e. Total number of minutes called per month Time of day patterns (probably pretty obvious but curious) Etc. Many thanks. -Mike Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com <http://www.api-digital.com> -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net <http://www.astricon.net> asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz <http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz>
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[asterisk-biz] VUC Friday: asterisk 1.6 fax, Drawing for Free Astricon Pass

Friday August 29, 2008 at 12 Noon EDT - VoIP Users Conference

Hi,

I was surprised to learn last week from Digium that asterisk 1.6 has
fax supported included. No more copying source files and editing
Makefile. While those tasks are not a big deal, they sort of defeat
the idea of using make. I greet the news with that fax is an integral
part of the asterisk install. I wonder where the fax code comes from?
SpanDSP?

Digital-OPSiS is offering a Free Exhibitors Pass, valued at $695 to
one lucky winner and the drawing, postponed from last week will be
this Friday on Voip Users Conference.

http://voipusersconference.org -or- http://bit.ly/voip

You can still register to be part of the Digital-OPSiS team and get
all the action of Astricon.

Go to http://bit.ly/astricon

For the rest of the time, we'll be talking about anything related to
telephony (and sometimes not related to anything) and especially VoIP,
SIP, hardware, asterisk, software.

Ironically, by definition being involved in VoIP means you have a
phone and usually have SIP providers or hardware and software to make
SIP calls. For years, the only vocal contact anyone had was the free
FWD network. Since March 2007, you can join us any Friday at 12 Noon
Eastern, 9AM Pacific or 1600 GMT to chat about anything that's on your
mind.

PSTN (724) 444-7444 and enter 22622# 1#
SIP 123@ts.x2z.eu DTMF 22622# 1#

IRC.freenode.net #voip-users-conference

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