On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Jon Weisman <jweisman@ibell.net> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I get what you're saying about TDM, but most providers are backhauling their
> traffic via VoIP anyway. What I mean to say is even if you have a PRI w/
> some carrier they may very well be taking your traffic on that PRI and
> passing it along VoIP to complete the call.
>
> /jon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com>
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider
>
>
>> Maybe a bit of clarification about "Is it worth it?".
>>
>> I have always gone by the TDM to the outside world viewpoint. You
>> never know when that one call could be a huge opportunity calling and
>> I think I will stay with that viewpoint for at least a PRI or two.
>>
>> I would hate to lose a deal because of crappy call quality or the call
>> never even hitting my switch. Sure, that could and has happened VERY
>> rarely with TDM, I could count it on one hand with PRI on a circuit
>> that has been turned up for a while and no change orders.
>>
>> At one point in a previous life, we were evaluating what call center
>> to outsource our Spanish calls to. One of the contenders setup a
>> conference bridge and the quality was terrible, then some random woman
>> got on the call and kept saying "hola, hola, hola". This was a poor
>> VoIP setup and made them look terrible. At least use a solid TDM
>> connection for initial sales calls.
>>
>> Well I have signed up with Junction for testing and got a call from a
>> gentleman named Tim within minutes of signing up. I already have a
>> Vitelity account. I will sign up for Teliax and others that have
>> contacted me on and offlist.
>>
>> I will probably setup a regular and also random dialout loop routine
>> using many of the various VoIP providers and use Emperix Hammer with
>> ULAW, recording any outages and the quality of voice.
>>
>> I still have a month and a half before my PRIs renew for a year and
>> now Qwest is offering month to month (only because I put in a
>> disconnect order) which will give me more time as well.
>>
>> The proof will be in the testing. 15mb up and down business FIOS with
>> little to no traffic on the link other than VoIP traffic and server
>> maintenance.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve Totaro
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Steve Totaro
>> <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
>>> Junction is a bit expensive (compared to others), the question is, are
>>> they worth it? Downtime or other issues?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve T
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Tim Panton <thp@westhawk.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I have been pretty happy with teliax.
>>>> The only problems I have had are a _very_ occasional outage and a
>>>> shortage of decent capacity to UK cell numbers at peak times.
>>>>
>>>> They have a neat feature which lets you interactively get the rate for
>>>> a number via a REST web service.
>>>>
>>>> I liked junction, but they only deal with US busineses, which probably
>>>> won't be a problem for you and indicates a robust attitude to
>>>> business:-)
>>>>
>>>> If you have enough volume you might want to talk to paetech (spelling?).
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:10, "Steve Totaro"
>>>> <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gafachi gives 10 outbound and $32/channel one time fee up to 100,
>>>>> beyond that, they want a wire transfer. Poor deal.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be looking at Teliax, Vitelity, and Junction Networks, any
>>>>> reviews?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is going on a FIOS business 15mb up and down. Bandwidth
>>>>> shouldn't be an issues since nothing is really on this connection.
>>>>> Latency and reliability are obviously key.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am breaking my no VoIP outside the LAN rule, let's see how it goes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is time to either re-up on my PRIs for another year or go VoIP (or
>>>>> both if I can get month to month)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Steve T
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Geoff Love <GLove@teliax.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Teliax has a plan that will meet your needs. We call it the pay as
>>>>>> you go
>>>>>> plan and it can be set up with unlimited channels. Please visit
>>>>>> Teliax.com
>>>>>> and take a look at the Plans tab. It shows that we provide 10
>>>>>> channels but
>>>>>> we can easily expand that to unlimited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We charge for usage and any DID's that you choose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Teliax is now offering a revamped affiliate program too. Contact me
>>>>>> offline
>>>>>> and I can provide you with all of the details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geoff Love
>>>>>> 303-629-8304
>>>>>> Glove@teliax.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com
>>>>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve
>>>>>> Totaro
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:49 PM
>>>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>>>>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking for a good quality provider with good rates to the US
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Canada. My main concern is the number of simultaneous channels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gafachi has ten for outbound. Is there a provider that has
>>>>>> "unlimited" and just bases cost on call destination and duration?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Steve Totaro
>>>>>>
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