Monday, June 23, 2008

Re: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider

Steve,
Just wondering why you are going with the Tier 2 and 3 guys. While I have heard only positive things about both Junction Networks and Teliax, if you have the volume traffic and do not need their value added services, why don't you go directly with one of the Tier 1 carriers?

Would cost you definitely less...

Moshe

Jon Weisman wrote:
Steve,  I get what you're saying about TDM, but most providers are backhauling their  traffic via VoIP anyway. What I mean to say is even if you have a PRI w/  some carrier they may very well be taking your traffic on that PRI and  passing it along VoIP to complete the call.  /jon   ----- Original Message -----  From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"  <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider     
Maybe a bit of clarification about "Is it worth it?".  I have always gone by the TDM to the outside world viewpoint.  You never know when that one call could be a huge opportunity calling and I think I will stay with that viewpoint for at least a PRI or two.  I would hate to lose a deal because of crappy call quality or the call never even hitting my switch.  Sure, that could and has happened VERY rarely with TDM, I could count it on one hand with PRI on a circuit that has been turned up for a while and no change orders.  At one point in a previous life, we were evaluating what call center to outsource our Spanish calls to.  One of the contenders setup a conference bridge and the quality was terrible, then some random woman got on the call and kept saying "hola, hola, hola".  This was a poor VoIP setup and made them look terrible.  At least use a solid TDM connection for initial sales calls.  Well I have signed up with Junction for testing and got a call from a gentleman named Tim within minutes of signing up.  I already have a Vitelity account.  I will sign up for Teliax and others that have contacted me on and offlist.  I will probably setup a regular and also random dialout loop routine using many of the various VoIP providers and use Emperix Hammer with ULAW, recording any outages and the quality of voice.  I still have a month and a half before my PRIs renew for a year and now Qwest is offering month to month (only because I put in a disconnect order) which will give me more time as well.  The proof will be in the testing.  15mb up and down business FIOS with little to no traffic on the link other than VoIP traffic and server maintenance.  Thanks, Steve Totaro  On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Steve Totaro <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com> wrote:     
Junction is a bit expensive (compared to others), the question is, are they worth it?  Downtime or other issues?  Thanks, Steve T  On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Tim Panton <thp@westhawk.co.uk> wrote:       
I have been pretty happy with teliax. The only problems I have had are a _very_ occasional outage and a shortage of decent capacity to UK cell numbers at peak times.  They have a neat feature which lets you interactively get the rate for a number via a REST web service.  I liked junction, but they only deal with US busineses, which probably won't be a problem for you and indicates a robust attitude to business:-)  If you have enough volume you might want to talk to paetech (spelling?).  Sent from my iPhone  On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:10, "Steve Totaro"  <stotaro@totarotechnologies.com  > wrote:          
Gafachi gives 10 outbound and $32/channel one time fee up to 100, beyond that, they want a wire transfer.  Poor deal.  I will be looking at Teliax, Vitelity, and Junction Networks, any reviews?  This is going on a FIOS business 15mb up and down.  Bandwidth shouldn't be an issues since nothing is really on this connection. Latency and reliability are obviously key.  I am breaking my no VoIP outside the LAN rule, let's see how it goes.  It is time to either re-up on my PRIs for another year or go VoIP (or both if I can get month to month)  Thanks, Steve T  On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Geoff Love <GLove@teliax.com> wrote:           
Teliax has a plan that will meet your needs. We call it the pay as you go plan and it can be set up with unlimited channels. Please visit Teliax.com and take a look at the Plans tab. It shows that we provide 10 channels but we can easily expand that to unlimited.  We charge for usage and any DID's that you choose.  Teliax is now offering a revamped affiliate program too. Contact me offline and I can provide you with all of the details.  Thanks,  Geoff Love 303-629-8304 Glove@teliax.com  -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:49 PM To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: [asterisk-biz] VoIP Provider  I am looking for a good quality provider with good rates to the US and Canada.  My main concern is the number of simultaneous channels.  Gafachi has ten for outbound.  Is there a provider that has "unlimited" and just bases cost on call destination and duration?  Thanks, Steve Totaro  _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--  asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:  http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz     _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com--  asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:  http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz              
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